For men physical peak is reached around age 28, barring injury. Of course this is an average representing a distribution. For women it is around age 20.

this comparison is only relevant if you trained consistently at a competitive level from 20-early 40's and compared them.

the easiest way to demonstrate my point is to look at the avg age of professional athletes, it isnt even mid 30's, despite their increased experience (admittedly the body does wear down tho) they arent able to compete with younger athletes

depends for what? just because u trained seriously after 30 doesnt mean u wouldnt have been better training same way after 20. the fast twitch muscle fibres and ligaments just work better before 30, no way around it.

If he is aged below 40, is injury free and most importantly starts juicing correctly then he can easily match his collegiate pb if that was achieved unjuiced.

If a rule says no performance enhancing drugs id give him 33% chance with no extra info. Essentially a good chance of probably 50% if hes kept in running shape and 10% if he hasnt. Weighted of course towards to him probably having kept in mediocre to bad shape.

I see. That must be why we see so many 40+ year old professional and Olympic athletes, getting the big contracts and winning most of the medals. Well, except for the sprinters, who you suggest peak in their thirties instead.

List of QBs that have thrown 16+ TDs in a season after age 40: Brady, Brees, Favre, Testaverde.

Number of QBs that have played in the NFL: >700

Exceptions and outliers exist.

If what you said was true, why are all these athletes retiring before their body peaks in their 40s? Hell, Usain Bolt is only 34. Can't wait till he's winning the gold in the 2032 Olympics when he finally peaks.

You don't see people playing into their 40s because their body went through hell from 17-35. If people started playing later, say they started when they were 30 then you'd see much more playing into their 40s.

Obviously you won’t be as fast when mid 30 but the bigger problem would be staying healthy to be able to train properly, it’s prob unlikely he could even run 11.9 right now.

That was my dad as a tennis player. He played in high school and college, then gave it up when he went to dental school. Didn't pick up a racquet again until he was in his mid-30s: by then, his practice was going well and he felt he had time to start hitting the ball again.

When he got into his 40s, he was winning local tourneys against guys half his age. No tennis elbow brace, no K-tape around his knees like many of the other players his age.

People kept saying things like "wow, imagine what you would have done back when you were in your 20s and 30s." To which he had a similar line of thinking as LimpDitka: he's playing well as a fortysomething because he spared his body more than a decade of wear and tear.

that's a really good point ... almost all athletes careers are ended by injuries or wear and tear ... modern science/medicine is getting better so guys are able to start doing more later in their career than previously, but you still see the health issues stop them ... you never totally physically recover from most things and there is the psychological restraint with a replaced or rehabbed part that keeps you from really fully being totally present in the event you're competing on ...

Yeah the injuries plus wear and tear is brutal. You don't necessarily see it on any given play during a sporting event. But I notice a lot of players in basketball or American football when they are walking back to the sidelines have subtle limps and shoulder hitches.

It took this long ITT to realize that injuries/stress play a major role in athletic deterioration over time? People actually think that a healthy individual in their mid-30s cannot perform near physical peak reached at age 28?

He got injured in college. I'd say Koon's body already had a lot of wear and tear on it in high school and college. Would not say he's "healthy" in that he is probably injury prone at this point.

LimpDitka, 2pairsof2s, PokerHero77 and Wilbury Twist are absolutely spot on correct...come on now, so a single mom who came off of giving birth and who is 4foot 11 and past her mid thirties can run a 10.7 and Koon can't run a 10.8 are you serious? listen to yourself

No I'm under 35 but its just common sense. Its not age, its the wear and tear or other life priorities why you don't see most people stick with it over 40. Its common knowledge that they call past early 40s over the hill, because early 40s is the peak. Imagine an ideal perfect world where an athlete had optimal lifestyle conditions, perfect air, water, diet, sleep and training and no distractions in a bubble lets say...his pb would come at 42, the peak.

By the way, Bolt probably quit at 30 because if he kept going he risked getting caught for PED usage, and also an athlete who dopes is wear and tear times 100, personal health issues down the road.

i mean you can literally look it up in medical texts, youre just wrong

cut the BS and run the race already. I'll put $100 on no, he can't do it. Let us know when and where.

So we’re saying he can run just as good as a woman who’s actively been a sprinter for 20 years, is the oldest woman to win a title (32), based off the fact she had a kid four years ago? Good grief.

What drugs are you on?

"a single mom who came off of giving birth" - show some respect. Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce is an elite athlete albeit at the latter stages of her career. She has won 7 Olympic medals including 2 gold, as well as winning 9 gold medals at World Championships.

"past her mid thirties" - 34 years of age is past mid thirties?

Koon has absolutely no chance of running legally 100m in 10.9s.

the thread is only arriving at the point that most careers are ended by injury, but in the early pages it was already discussed that one of the major barriers to him achieving this is that he likely will get injured by trying to do high-intensity training to get to this level ... it's something that would make it impossible to make terms because he could effectively make it a "there is only a bet if i am healthy enough to win the bet" situation depending on the injury/deadline clauses

Sure. But if we were able to take identical people and have them dedicate 15-20 years to a sport, starting at different times in their lives, I fully expect we'd see much better results from those who reach their peak in their mid-late 20's-early 30's, not from those who do so in their 40's.

He said in a tweet at some point that the bet would be a wash if he got injured. So yeah I agree. Kind of like how "I could win the WSOP ME but only if I don't get coolered"

She'll be 35 soon, and please cut it with this "elite athlete" non sense. You do realize she stands only 4 foot 11 inches in height while J.Koon is just shy of 6 foot. I hope you are not heightist and ageist or the other ist.

In a perfect world J.Koon would be able to break 10.5.

He's still so young, not even at the peak yet. While late twenties might be prime, early 40s is peak. Did you know the average person uses only 10% of their brain capacity? The corollary is true for physical potential. Imagine the possibilities of someone exposed to the perfect training regimen, the perfect diet, perfect environmental conditions. Maybe its not possible on this planet for **** Sapiens but athletes such as Brady, Mayweather, Torres etc.. have shown even a fraction of getting close to their ultimate capacities.

No we know you don't know what you're talking about.

This is quite possibly one of the dumbest posts I've read in almost 15 years on 2p2.

Pretty sure he’s just trolling. The totally ridiculous “In a perfect world J.Koon would be able to break 10.5.” statement gave it away.