Koon must be a huge favorite.

Dude: how fast can you run?
Koon: 10.9
Dude: lol, lets bet, idiot.
Koon: yeah, obviously.


Thread: lol koon.

He says bet is off if he gets injured

how do they define what injuries would entitle him to call off the bet? obviously if minor injuries also count then it is a free roll for him

wrong, there is athletic sports where you peak "late" like 28-35 like boxing, why mike tyson was so impressive was that he got the world champ belt as a 19(18?) year old. That will likely never happen again. But no physically demanding sport will have you peak at 40-43 no matter how complex it is, ever.

shortlist of people is just a bunch of extraordinary humans/ anomalities. Boxing is the one sport I can think off where your opinion can hold any water, but even there, so much politics. ppl refusing to fight certain opponents, gaps of true heavyweight contenders for extended periods of time etc. Getting punched in the face is rough and takes more than just athletic ability.


edit: and yeah, stronglifting/strongest man contensts

You forgot about Darren Stevens, who turned 45 last month and is playing better than ever. His latest onslaught is on youtube:

youtu.be/PDy0KHaoHW4?t=48


http://www.skysports.com/cricket/new...g-190-for-kent

Kind of silly considering injury makes up about 90% of the 100% chance he will fail.

Jason Koon is a lot closer to the group who "let themselves go" than the list of some of the greatest athletes in the world you named who performed at elite levels in their 40s.

this doesnt argue for you, its an anomality. You pull this guy and says hes the best, sure. But the league average age isnt 45, so there is no reason for "prime age" for cricket being 45, or anything close to it. If it was an advantage being old af in athletic sports, the age average would be much higher. Its that simple. Experience only matter so much when your body holds you back. Obviously this doesnt apply to non athletic sports as much. However, there is very intense e-sports games that have "age prime" between 14-21. Slayers Boxer being the outlier there in starcraft for example being 31 and capable of hanging with the elite in a world of 14 year olds back in the days, not winning anything big but able to get to some playoffs, now hes 40 and have been retired since 2013.

There isnt an advantage being as short as Messi in soccer, yet he is the best player in the world, hes also an outlier.

so is this gonna go down or did the guy who snapcalled on twitter really end up backing out

I have no idea what I'm talking about, really? Genetically speaking, we don't know what Koon's ultimate capacity is for a 100m time dash is, all we can go on is his PB which he hit an at age (22?) where people can devote time to their chosen sport (student loans, no need to support children/hold a job etc...) Imagine if you had told Kim Collins (also a 100m runner) to give up after 25 because he was past it. The guy made the 100m final and recorded his best ever times near 40 years old, around the same age Koon is getting to. Most people in amateur sport stop after a certain age because its not economically feasible in most sports to keep devoting your life to training. The pro sports where you can make a living at it most people keep going (ex. Tom Brady) and if they keep at it, keep performing at peak or near peak depending on their training/habits etc...The ones who quit often is due to injuries accumulated, not age per say. If Koon is un-injured their is nothing about his age that would stop him from reaching his genetic potential in the 100m dash.

Yes you have no idea what you're talking about. Most people who have times under 10s don't quit after age 22 though. Like Usain Bolt. Why didn't Usain Bolt run faster after age 22? We know that peak performance for the 100m is in the early to mid twenties. In fact Usain Bolt was a converted 400m runner who didn't start running the 100m until he was 19 I believe. The 100m sprint puts a tremendous amount of stress on the body. 100m runners are highly prone to injury. Kim Collins is the exception not the rule. To think that Koon, who has a history of injury, would be able to get close to his college PB is insanity. Unless he has been doing training work to strengthen his ligaments and tendons specifically he has no chance of running under 10.9s, even then he has virtually no chance. Not even close. I'd bet my my life against a dozen doughnuts Koon doesn't run under 10.9s in a 100m sprint.

The bet never stated it needs to be on EARTH. At sub 1-G gravity there is a performance benefit as you can jump much further.

Nike actually looked into this for their sub 2 hour marathon attempt and there is a science paper exploring this but I cannot find it currently.

There is also the question of spring type shoes currently banned in races that could be used for the attempt unless specified against. Then again a shoe with a rebound percentage higher than 100 is obviously a kind of external aid.

Gravity is slightly lower on the equator but Nike reasoned the increased temperature would nullify the few seconds that one could gain over 2 hours.

10.899 or faster for 100 meters on a level track from a standing start, competition style.

No chance in hell, dude must have a decent angle up his sleeve to even attempt this, aside from the injury freeroll.

you really need to bring Usain Bolt into this argument? my friend, look at Bolt's bloated gut during his races, look at his receding hair line as he got into his final competing years, look at how during the off-season he would look merely mortal and lose in races...this dude was clearly juiced to the max, as was all of the record setting Jamaican sprinters that started smashing world records from the same club...he converted to sprints from the 400 because only performance enhancing drugs could convert a man of his height into a pure sprinter due to the limitations tall people have over the first 30 to 40 metres of a 100m dash. You bring up a non-sequitor because Koon is not planning to use steroids for this bet.

"100m sprint puts a tremendous amount of stress on the body"...its 10 seconds ...fighters who have been 45 have become world champions (george foreman) and your telling me getting your head smashed in isn't stressful to the body? Now if you are talking about injuries accumulated with proper rest and recovery/healing than yes I agree with you but that is not inherently age related more lifestyle/rest/recover/diet etc...

I disagree, being short if you are short with a low centre of gravity is a huge advantage in soccer. The best pure dribbler types (Messi, Maradonna, George Best, Pele) as well as many of the lesser know Messi like "clones" are in the range of 5 foot 4- five foot 8. In fact, some go so far as to say that if one simple rule was tweaked (heading the ball was made illegal for example) anyone over 6 foot would be at a huge disadvantage in soccer. The real outlier would be Ronaldo for being able to play so well despite being over 6 foot.

Being "bloated" is actually evidence that Bolt DOESN'T juice and is instead just a freak of nature who is just naturally wildly fast.

The point of juicing is so that your body can handle MORE work, not less. One doesn't juice and then sit around and get fat.
Juicing allows the body to endure more workouts/stress and recover more quickly, as a result, juicers get ripped (BenJohnson).

It appears you don't know ****.

dude, bloated distended gut. Look at closely before his record setting races. Clear sign of GH (growth hormone) use. If you don't think Bolt used PEDs than you sound pretty naive.

You guys are over thinking this. If this bet happens Im betting on Koon at whatever the market odds are. Easy money. No way Koon is getting it in bad here and I think the biggest flaw in thinking is that Koon is some random 36 year old that let himself go. If he books it, he can do it.

Marlon Brando told Frank Sinatra in "Guys and Dolls" not to take bets offered by someone else.



Actually I don't know if it was Koon or the other guy that offered the bet. You can social condition someone to offer a bet. But I will say the injury thing in a bet like this seems like a freeroll for Koon.

What are you talking about? Have you been even watching the Olympics? We have a single mother in her mid thirties going faster in the 100m dash than Koon would be attempting and she won silver. We have a thirty something sprinter from China running a 9.83. Throughout history, the list of sprinters who peaked in their thirties is endless, Justin Gaitlin, Frankie Fredericks, Kim Collins. Are you going to tell Tom Brady he can't play quarterback anymore even though he's still winning Super Bowls in his forties? In actuality, the human body doesn't peak until early 40s.

Retitle this thread : Jason Koon floats hypothetical prop bets to remain relevant ... everything about this feels like the big Seinfeld race ... tales of past glory, realities of physical fitness/ability, a super nit floating a huge number for a prop bet that seems nearly impossible for him to pull off ... this is the Timex Grandmaster bet ... I'm not saying I haven't enjoyed it but this is a conversation about a conversation; there is no real bet or intent to bet

He's no chance, bets wont happen.

because a female olympic athlete can do it, koon who i assume primarily weight trains and hasnt seriously run in over a decade could do it?

ftr i have no idea how feasible this bet would be, but i think that argument (even tho he would have an additional 1s) is garbage

human body doesnt peak until early 40s? pure COPIUM (im guessing you are over 35?)

I have always been naturally athletic due to good genes (my Dad was a competitive NCAA swimmer and my Mom was a professional ballerina, both of them were very athletic and naturally fit, as were all of my brothers.) Looking back now at 60 years old and speaking only for myself, I was in many ways at my physical peak in my late 30's through to my mid 40's, when I developed greater stamina and more core strength than I had in my twenties.