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If you're so smart, why can't you cross over into mainstream pop culture If you're so smart, why can't you cross over into mainstream pop culture

07-21-2021 , 10:39 PM
Poker will keep slowly declining in popularity as the years go by. The boom of the early to late 2000s was incredible, but you are kidding yourself if you think poker will return to that level. Polk said on his recent podcast with Olivier that the new generation of youth he interacts with via non poker gaming, no one plays poker any more. This means there is much less likely a new wave of durrr/galfond/Dang bros, an in multiple decades from now, much less fish to keep the ecosystem afloat.

I do think though that this presents a lucrative short to medium term opportunity for all current winning poker players. Less competition from new blood as the current fish keep swimming around.
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07-21-2021 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
So, ya' think having your Mom start tweeting/posting is bad for a poker player's image ?
The mom is a character. It's actually an interesting dynamic that can be possibly worked into things. I mean, it's pretty funny😂

To respond to the other post, they raise an interesting point. To clarify, it's still a wholesome story, if the featured character is a badass, w/ a wild past, playing poker. Alright. So we understand each other. Thx
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07-22-2021 , 04:18 PM
I'd love to see a script, or a treatment, or something. Maybe if you get Lin Manuel Miranda, whatever this is will work.
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07-25-2021 , 07:43 AM
Because everyone on 2+2 and who they worship is a boring ass chode.
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07-25-2021 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeSlim
It's because people don't like hustlers. They respect honesty and hard work, and they generally can't conceive of much else. I have a phonebook / contacts list full of people who don't have health insurance, hardly pay taxes, and are constantly asking me if I have people for their app game.

Don Johnson (of Atlantic City blackjack fame) says it best. You can't build a business based on other people's demise.
In other words people have been brainwashed to work like dogs to make someone else rich. No disrespect to the 9 to 5 folks
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07-25-2021 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MetaGameOver
I'd love to see a script, or a treatment, or something. Maybe if you get Lin Manuel Miranda, whatever this is will work.
I love it. An All-In: The Musical reboot. All of the many white people of poker will be portrayed by people of color, while LMM will play Phil Ivey.

And get Leslie Odom, Jr. to play Hellmuth. The man who originated Aaron Burr will now have to dodge bullets, baby.
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08-02-2021 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Eden Rocks
Yah look, somebody else whose opinion matters more than yours said "yes"😂& these posts were merely an advertisement to let you guys know what's coming🎩see ya's soon👍gg
There is nobody on this entire website whose opinion is worth more than mine. Watch your mouth.
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08-30-2021 , 07:59 PM
1. It is my professional assessment that "streets drama ("Twitter feuds")" attracts a great amount of attention across every community that is present on Twitter.

2. Therefore, on a fundamental level of understanding, it seems that somehow monetizing this phenomenon would be GTO$

3. Contestants would willingly sign up to enter "the colosseum", while also signing the appropriate legal paperwork beforehand to nullify any potential lawsuits against the proprietors, etc.

4. Once it's established that there is a "hub", or "hotspot" where ppl are assembling to go head-to-head in direct "roast battles", in whatever poker context that is eventually decided upon, what you will find is a mass focus on that battleground - *thereby greatly reducing the amount of potential damage from established brands infighting within the community*

5. This is an extremely risky & high-difficulty-level concept to execute properly - but if it is implemented w/ the correct strats - the proprietors will print money🎩

Ty. Just sharing some strats to pass the time. Serious ppl are welcome to ring up The Corp. H.Q.🥂cheers
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08-30-2021 , 08:13 PM
What dispensary do you use, and are you currently on sativa or indica?

Seriously I have no fn clue what you just said.
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08-30-2021 , 08:22 PM
Twitter feuds within the poker community are utterly ****ing pathetic.

Put your phones down. Live your lives.
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08-30-2021 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
Twitter feuds within the poker community are utterly ****ing pathetic.

Put your phones down. Live your lives.
You can't dismiss Twitter feuds entirely without also dismissing the appeal (to many) of ppl putting their necks out in public to battle each other. It just draws👀 if it's done right. Surely, it must have been this way since the beginning of time. The poker community labs up GTO strats for the game, & I lab up my own strats, a few of which I'm choosing to present to you here. To pass the time, while I wait for stuff to come on down thru the pipeline. That's all. But I'm right & it would work & do wonders
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08-30-2021 , 08:46 PM
Would this idea work in conjunction with a poker themed hotel?
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08-30-2021 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Would this idea work in conjunction with a poker themed hotel?
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08-30-2021 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Would this idea work in conjunction with a poker themed hotel?
On a poker-themed planet, yes ofc

Trolling aside, ye
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08-31-2021 , 05:58 AM
A poker themed planet certainly kicks the concept up a notch. Screw the hotel at this point. Well done.

The best way for you to show proof of concept is organize and run a small sample "colosseum" and use that success to build on for future larger similar ventures. Let us know how that goes.
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08-31-2021 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
A poker themed planet certainly kicks the concept up a notch. Screw the hotel at this point. Well done.

The best way for you to show proof of concept is organize and run a small sample "colosseum" and use that success to build on for future larger similar ventures. Let us know how that goes.
Or I can log onto Twitter & use my thumb to scroll up & down & observe what I see

But hey, you can look forward to the Idea Tax Deposit for posting here in your inbox any day now. I sent it snail mail this time if you don't mind
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08-31-2021 , 11:33 AM
We should make a video game like Def Jam Fight for NY but it's all poker players. Sam Grizzle vs Hellmuth on the PS5 would be dope!
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09-01-2021 , 12:19 PM
It's like being a rockstar. No one starts out thinking theyll get rich. Theyre thinking about the hookers and blow and just trying to last a few years before dying. That or theyre doing it wrong.
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09-01-2021 , 03:10 PM
Alright. I guess this thread is my little channel here while I'll toss out the meta-leading entertainment strats once in a while. What you guys could use is the next big "Pokerbrat". Pokerbrat v. 2.0. A character that transcends poker. You can't teach that, & everybody will know it as soon as they see it. The persona I've labbed up is this generation's Beethoven. He could care less about being good at the game, but he is the greatest showman on Earth. & he's not shy about letting you know that. Everybody will think it's a pure clown act at first - that is, until the orchestral rock music gets introduced. Then, everybody's minds will be blown.

It'll work wonders. It'll work anywhere. I've got ppl in the film industry that are going to scoop it up - when they blast off. So you guys have a window to get first crack until then.

Alright��
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09-01-2021 , 03:18 PM
I'll also add that I've got documented proof that this system/character is also a big hit w/ young ppl. I'm talking even teenagers. This is the Entertainment Super System.

Alright ��
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09-02-2021 , 11:37 AM
Because "poker" isn't centrally managed with a leader who has authority to execute decisions for the benefit of 'poker'.

As is the case with any leaderless group of people, the end result will be the sum of whatever random actions the individual participants do. Its not something that is strategically directed, so this is basically a ******ed premise and probably sheds light on why you said something like "If you're so smart..." (projecting insecurity over being dumb)
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09-03-2021 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLOL
Because "poker" isn't centrally managed with a leader who has authority to execute decisions for the benefit of 'poker'.

As is the case with any leaderless group of people, the end result will be the sum of whatever random actions the individual participants do. Its not something that is strategically directed, so this is basically a ******ed premise and probably sheds light on why you said something like "If you're so smart..." (projecting insecurity over being dumb)
^

football didn't become america's sport because a bunch of football players got together and decided they need to become more entertaining or whatever. the chess streaming boom happened in large part because netflix made queen's gambit.

The simple fact is that live poker is boring unless you're playing with your friends. The boom was lightning in a bottle: perfect storm of joe schmoe winning a huge amount of money, ESPN being in everyone's home and broadcasting WSOP in an entertaining way, and a bunch of fish thinking it's gonna be their next get rich quick scheme (it used to be day trading, and nowadays it's crypto trading, and soon crypto trading will be gone as well).

I'm pretty sick of everyone complaining about grinders wearing hoodies and whatever: the personalities came around because HSP and ESPN catered their broadcasting to focus on the personalities, and for whatever reason, they're not as interested in that anymore. Tom Dwan didn't become a poker celebrity by his own hand, he became a celeb because TV networks saw he was entertaining invited him to be on TV, it's not that hard.

Poker is still quite popular: it's definitely not going the way of bridge or anything. I saw Phil Hellmuth on the TV at the gym yesterday. I recently graduated from college and I ran into so many 20 year-old men who were interested in poker all the time, many of which wanted to play $0.50/$1 with me on Friday nights.

Bunch of 2p2ers aren't gonna make much of an effect one way or another, unless they have someone's ear at Netflix.

Last edited by JohnRusty; 09-03-2021 at 12:09 AM.
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09-03-2021 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLOL
Because "poker" isn't centrally managed with a leader who has authority to execute decisions for the benefit of 'poker'.

As is the case with any leaderless group of people, the end result will be the sum of whatever random actions the individual participants do. Its not something that is strategically directed, so this is basically a ******ed premise and probably sheds light on why you said something like "If you're so smart..." (projecting insecurity over being dumb)
Part of this gig is "world building". In my world, of course there are a few poker bosses that run the entire grid. It's like a kingdom. & I can stroll on up & shoot my mouth off, saying, "if you're so smart, why aren't you the biggest thing in the world yet?" Partly because it's true; & also partly because I can back it up. Who does this? Who says things like this? What you guys need is an avatar. A champion. Get all your bean counters in line, configure all of your systems & market exploitations around your one champion avatar - the guy who will roast a crisp anybody who dares to approach him saying "you suck" - & you'll print infinite money. If this verbiage doesn't make sense to you, then you don't understand world building. Every community is not popping off like they should - it's not just poker. We can part Social Media like the Red Sea. We can Move Mountains w/ our clowning. Promote some "nobody" to be a friggin champion & the legend of that will promote itself. Infinite money. How is it possible? You got the meta leader of pop rock hooks - so like the best rock band in the world - backed by a carefully labbed persona, over 20+ years of labbing it up. Who's gonna tell me I suck? Who is qualified? Nobody. Yes. I'm suggesting that you allow me access to your infrastructure, & that you promote me above anybody else. It's like, instead of chasing some stupid naked flush draw on the turn, why not take a punt on the Beethoven Guy & see what entrance he would do, into running the table on a televised game. & add some cartoon music video advertisement midrolls. & you will see the future. & that's one of 25 strats I've developed that would conquer. Because it's all flat out there, man. Ok. That's all for now🎩🥂
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09-03-2021 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Eden Rocks
Part of this gig is "world building". In my world, of course there are a few poker bosses that run the entire grid. It's like a kingdom. & I can stroll on up & shoot my mouth off, saying, "if you're so smart, why aren't you the biggest thing in the world yet?" Partly because it's true; & also partly because I can back it up. Who does this? Who says things like this? What you guys need is an avatar. A champion. Get all your bean counters in line, configure all of your systems & market exploitations around your one champion avatar - the guy who will roast a crisp anybody who dares to approach him saying "you suck" - & you'll print infinite money. If this verbiage doesn't make sense to you, then you don't understand world building. Every community is not popping off like they should - it's not just poker. We can part Social Media like the Red Sea. We can Move Mountains w/ our clowning. Promote some "nobody" to be a friggin champion & the legend of that will promote itself. Infinite money. How is it possible? You got the meta leader of pop rock hooks - so like the best rock band in the world - backed by a carefully labbed persona, over 20+ years of labbing it up. Who's gonna tell me I suck? Who is qualified? Nobody. Yes. I'm suggesting that you allow me access to your infrastructure, & that you promote me above anybody else. It's like, instead of chasing some stupid naked flush draw on the turn, why not take a punt on the Beethoven Guy & see what entrance he would do, into running the table on a televised game. & add some cartoon music video advertisement midrolls. & you will see the future. & that's one of 25 strats I've developed that would conquer. Because it's all flat out there, man. Ok. That's all for now🎩🥂
What absolute gibberish.
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09-03-2021 , 10:57 AM
you read that!?

rip super dave
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