How does Andy Frankenberger do it? - Page 7 - Poker News

This.

If Frankenberger was in the Business/Finance forum owning people about derivatives trading (or whatever it was he did) everyone would be on his nuts.

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06-10-2012 , 05:18 PM

#152

Odysseus

grinder

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Originally Posted by chasepoker

You guys are so lol giving him advice on how to play, saying he is smart with the capability to be good if he listens to you guys etc ha ha...

Let me guess Mercier sucks as well and just runs good but would be better if he listened to NVG's advice on how to play.

Not fanboy as someone above states just staring open mouthed in a OMG way at some peoples arrogance / stupidity.

If only these luck boxes listened to NVG eh think what they could achieve...

All of the fanbois swinging from the guy's nuts are pretty hilarious. NEWSFLASH: you don't need to have won a 10K event to criticize Frankenstein's play anymore than you need to be an ex-president to criticize Obama or Bush. The play of a given hand rises or falls based on the logic behind it, not on anything else.

hth

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06-10-2012 , 05:33 PM

#153

slevin90

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Seriously tho, how does he do it?

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06-10-2012 , 05:59 PM

#154

spring83

Jack of all trades

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Only way he folds there (QQ hand) is if there is collusion or he is a complete noob. So which is it?

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06-10-2012 , 05:59 PM

#155

doublejoker

Old News

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He's on another deep run in $10k plh.

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06-10-2012 , 06:04 PM

#156

LOL POT-ODDS

Pooh-Bah

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he must be running like sweet christ

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06-10-2012 , 06:07 PM

#157

FI5HMAN

journeyman

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Hey, guys, did we figure out how he did it yet?

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06-10-2012 , 06:39 PM

#158

Frubi_ZMIJA

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 297

kk vs A8, aj2, 4, river K

there u go he double up

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06-10-2012 , 06:41 PM

#159

funkyfood

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,500

but can he do it like this, can he do it like that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEA3Ocw81XQ

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06-10-2012 , 06:48 PM

#160

Alficor1

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About the A7s hand:
To be honest just calling the river is probably the best play here, because he's just never getting called by a worse hand. Sorel wouldnt call a river raise with 99-JJ (QQ+ would 3bet pre, 55-22 would fold pre). He also never has worse sevens in his range, because he raised from SB and called his 3bet oop. And since AF's hand is so face up, Sorel would just get away from even a hand like KQ/AK. So when Mizzi bets the river and Andy raises, Sorel will basicly never just call, but either fold or shove.

Having said all that, he still played it horribly. He's really bad and i don't know how he does it.

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06-10-2012 , 07:11 PM

#161

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

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Originally Posted by doublejoker

He's on another deep run in $10k plh.

Slow pony is slow.

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06-10-2012 , 07:25 PM

#162

dubwise

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 393

time for some live action!

http://www.wsop.com/2012/live-video/...aspx?TID=12117

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06-10-2012 , 07:37 PM

#163

3kingme3

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,483

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Originally Posted by Alficor1

About the A7s hand:
To be honest just calling the river is probably the best play here, because he's just never getting called by a worse hand. Sorel wouldnt call a river raise with 99-JJ (QQ+ would 3bet pre, 55-22 would fold pre). He also never has worse sevens in his range, because he raised from SB and called his 3bet oop. And since AF's hand is so face up, Sorel would just get away from even a hand like KQ/AK. So when Mizzi bets the river and Andy raises, Sorel will basicly never just call, but either fold or shove.

Having said all that, he still played it horribly. He's really bad and i don't know how he does it.

O RLY

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06-10-2012 , 08:32 PM

#164

Matt Glantz

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If you are still wondering how Andy does it, you can watch him live stream right now in the 10k PLH against some pretty tough opponents.

There are so many ways to win at poker and it would be foolish to mock what you don't understand. I see the things he does and I don't understand a bunch of it as well. But not understanding it doesn't make it bad. Could be quite the opposite.

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06-10-2012 , 08:41 PM

#165

asheikh17

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Originally Posted by nobuke

Andy, I sincerely hope you win another bracelet this season just to piss off all the haters.

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06-10-2012 , 08:41 PM

#166

mement_mori

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Originally Posted by Matt Glantz

This is an argument a lot of people like to use but the fact that you dont understand it dosent necessarily make it good either.

Regardless of if he is good or not a lot of people would benefit from looking into some good online players sample sizes to get an understanding on just how easy it is for good people to go on huge downswings and bad/breakeven players to go on huge upswings. Obviously smaller sample sizes are required live but its insane how much people use results as an excuse/explanation for a lot of people when almost everyone has a sample size of less than a thousand tournaments.

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06-10-2012 , 08:55 PM

#167

hansmolman

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Fooled by randomness

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06-10-2012 , 09:09 PM

#168

MikkeD

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Looking forward to Frankenberger and Helmuth getting HU for a bracelet - NVG confusion about who to hate will be epic!

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06-10-2012 , 09:11 PM

#169

moki

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Originally Posted by hansmolman

Fooled by randomness

Say, that's a good title for a book...

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06-10-2012 , 09:38 PM

#170

striiing

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I actually like this guy. He acts like a gentleman at the table and as for the QQ it would be a terrible fold in a cash game but taking the points system into account it might be a good play. Even in todays game a 6 bet still screams of super strenght so maybe he didnt fancy putting the rest of his money in to be shown AA. Internet poker is now littered with people who watch training videos then past the knowledge of as their own. Keep on truckin' Andy, your great TV

Last edited by striiing; 06-10-2012 at 09:47 PM.

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06-10-2012 , 10:13 PM

#171

clayton bigsby

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Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 30

lol josh ariea about andy..."hes so tilting to play with...i 4 bet jammed on him with qq and he took 4 minutes to call with kk"....and making fun of him for clapping like a douche after he wins his flip ak vs 66...andy is such a clown to me...josh says "hes not my type of guy" lol couldnt have said it better myself