He's winning? What is your evidence for that?

PHil's game seems to be immensely winning.

As far as tournaments go he has 42 million in cashes and I’m pretty sure his buyins don’t exceed that number

he's actually very open and transparent about the fact that last several years in a row despite having multi million cashes each year still spent more money on buyins

his transparency and honesty on the issue is easily his most admirable quality

Ok, overall is what I was talking about though and the bulk of the 42M has to be in the past decade

It’s also much easier to play well if someone is footing your buyins though

Also funny because that's how everyone used to play, but now becomes revolutionary again somehow

Just watched round two and it was a good example of why Phil has won so many bracelets. He is a monster player at the end when the blinds are highest and the play is heads up. He had Daniel off balance on every hand, unsure of where he was at and what to do, and Phil took advantage of that. Phil mixed it up real good and handled Daniel fairly easily imo. Even had he lost that last hand I think Phil would ultimately have won the session.

One more thing. You can throw all that Game Theory stuff out the window when you're playing heads up. It's all about how well you read your opponent and how you can exploit him. Phil did a good job of just that against Daniel. He had Daniel calling with the worst of it and throwing away his winning hands. Phil is not afraid to put those chips in the middle and Daniel is left waiting for a big hand to appear.

One other thing I like about Phil's play. It may seem minor, but when he cocoons himself after a big bet, with his head down and his big hands guarding his face he is impossible to read. You have no idea if he's bluffing or has a real hand. I think he showed his real chops in this match.

I don't think Negreanu played GTO even the second time, though he came closer that time. I think he was still erring on the side of not calling off too many chips, and that played very poorly against Phil's bouts of maniacal play. I also don't understand what Negreanu's plan was when he was calling off big portions of his stack with small pairs; it seemed like his plan was to merely set mine, which seemed terrible to me given the odds, but maybe he didn't expect Phil to destroy his implied odds by being so over-the-top aggressive.

This is Apex predator chit man!

king kong sh*t

I agree with you 1000 percent Ray, Daniel has excellent character just like Ivey and Jason. Fantastic ambassadors for the game. I love those 3. Really good quality. He is fun just like Ivey and Jason. Hellmuth is a jerk. Arrogant know it all and no clue why.

Yep, he is very honest.

Disgusting if that is what he did. That is so not good for poker tv. OMG glad I missed it although in my thoughts was rooting for Daniel.

I like Daniel, very happy I missed that. I don't think Daniel cares though. He is so rich. He just donates to people like DP and Phil. He is a loose carefree happy guy. What was it for 200k? Nothing in Daniel's account but maybe for Phil.

Dnegs was hungry and couldn't focus that's why he lost. Should have brought some vegan snacks. Phil came prepared with the proper fuel.

If Daniel wants it, he will get it. He is too happy to care in my opinion. Look at Phil, overweight mouthy not attractive. No persona whatsoever. Ivey, Daniel and Jason my three top poker Kings! If you were ever blessed to come across those three in one way or another, count it a blessing!

I' sorry Ivey #1 Fan but I've had enough of your nonsense. You may want to read this thread in its entirety:

https://fullcontactpoker.com/poker-f...omment-3563705

Mason

Nonsense since I have a different perspective? I did not watch the game. I love u guys, have all your books. I did not read the entire thread. Too busy.

Look. It's okay if you like Negreanu even though our experience with him is quite negative. But this thread is not about whether Negreanu is a nice person or not. It's about how this match was played including specific hands and overall strategy.

You've made your point that you like Negreanu. So from now on let's stick to the hands and overall strategy.

Best wishes,
Mason

Got it.

Hi Everyone:

There's an interesting idea that has come up in this thread which some of you may want to debate. It's the idea of whether GTO or exploitative poker is better, at least in this particular format.

One thing that top tournament players do is to conserve their chips in certain situations. An example would be if you think you're the better player, you might fold a hand with a small edge to wait for a situation where your edge will be larger.

But when playing GTO not only do you not do this, but there will be spots where it's correct, but perhaps only slightly, to put a lot of chips in the pot. This would include an occasional triple barrel bluff or an occasional calling every round with a marginal hand.

Best wishes,
Mason

Gotta love Ph sizing in the triple bluff with T2dd/ 50%/50%/25 % river jam lol and somehow works

I think he did the same thing vs jungleman like 50%/50%/ 15% river jam on a no equity bluff and jungle folded Tx on TTxxx

Found the video, even sicker then i thought.

Playing purely GTO is almost guaranteed to make you a loser over the long run, especially after rake. Isnt the only way to have an advantage in poker is to exploit your opponents? GTO gets everything to 50/50 where you can't lose but you also can't win, right? Creating a puzzle that your opponent can't figure out seems like a better strategy than GTO. Every decent poker player at least knows how a GTO strategy works nowadays.

GTO is for a lesser player to use so they can't be exploited vs a superior player. Daniel is over doing it with the GTO stuff. Unfortunately I think he fell into the trap of the solver actually made him a worse player. In my opinion playing too much GTO just turns you into a losing bot/bad reg.

The physical size difference between the 2 is hilarious. Looks like dad playing with his kid. How Jungle folded getting 6-1 there is beyond me.