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03-18-2021 , 07:10 AM
Have there been any instances of players actually getting their funds confiscated due to bumhunting?

At this point, it seems like they issue warnings. Maybe ban accounts. But that's all I've heard. It seems like GG simply 'reserves the right' to do so, but may not be enforcing the confiscation element.
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03-18-2021 , 09:14 AM
as a rec player, I think this is great. predatory behaviour is one of the things killing the game. the rules are clear, whether you think they are fair, is frankly a matter of opinion. GG is a private business, they have no duty to provide you with the service you want. they confiscate funds for repeat offenders, otherwise, there is no deterrent.

too many 'pros' think they are owed a service by a platform, that their 'job' is being impacted by the decisions that the site makes to hurt them - when in fact the site understands the ecosystem far better than the 'pros'. in any other industry, you would seek alternative employment if you were unhappy with the working conidtions, not ***** and moan about it.
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03-18-2021 , 09:37 AM
The fundamental principle of poker is the notion of fair play, and clear rules.

Confiscating player's balances for 'bum hunting' unless they've been put on notice that their behavior violates the site's rules is wrong.

And I am speaking as an oft hunted bum.

What if I like playing against certain players? Do I even have to win vs them to have a balance taken?

off to bumhunt Boski

Last edited by inmyrav; 03-18-2021 at 09:45 AM.
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03-18-2021 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by prideitoff
shouldnt every professional poker player try to play in games where they think they have an edge?
You really can't see a difference between a player who will play most of the time because they think they are better than the general population, and someone who will only ever play if there is a complete whale (and usually only play if their script is faster than the other 20 people that usually end up on a wait list in the same situation), giving no action otherwise, and then instantly leaving when the whale has been stacked?
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03-18-2021 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RecreationalPlayer
as a rec player, I think this is great. predatory behaviour is one of the things killing the game. the rules are clear, whether you think they are fair, is frankly a matter of opinion. GG is a private business, they have no duty to provide you with the service you want. they confiscate funds for repeat offenders, otherwise, there is no deterrent.

too many 'pros' think they are owed a service by a platform, that their 'job' is being impacted by the decisions that the site makes to hurt them - when in fact the site understands the ecosystem far better than the 'pros'. in any other industry, you would seek alternative employment if you were unhappy with the working conidtions, not ***** and moan about it.
exactly. Never understood bum hunting myself.

This of course would never happen, but the way to solve it, would be poker just becomes tournaments all the time. That way.. if you dont want to enter a $1 million gtee'd tournament because theres a good player in the pool Then fine, dont enter it. But I and people like you.. will be entering trying to win the money!

In any sport.. people have to play a team better than them. Like a Premier League team cannot refuse to play Manchester City and so on. But in poker people do.. they avoid people they dont want to play.

And lastly what does make me laugh is I hear of games where a bad player leaves and the whole table breaks... But its as if these people think theyre like the Roger Federer of the poker world or something. I bet theyre not even that good at poker themselves!
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03-18-2021 , 10:49 AM
I have received a warning for bumhunting on GG but has anyone actually had funds confiscated for bumhunting?
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03-18-2021 , 10:54 AM
The problem is the games often become 6 regs at a table. GG is taking 50bb/100 rake at $1/$2 from the table and everyone is losing money but no one is allowed to leave because of the bumhunting rules.
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03-18-2021 , 11:27 AM
Do you also get your BR confiscated for bumhunting tournaments?
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03-18-2021 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by thexfale
Do you also get your BR confiscated for bumhunting tournaments?
How do you bumhunt mtts? You can't choose the seat and take a new one after the fish busts. I know you were trolling but the question was so stupid.

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In any sport.. people have to play a team better than them. Like a Premier League team cannot refuse to play Manchester City and so on. But in poker people do.. they avoid people they dont want to play.
Poker is not a team sport. You should compare it to boxing fe where you can just choose not to take the fight.

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I bet theyre not even that good at poker themselves!
No they are not.

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I have received a warning for bumhunting on GG but has anyone actually had funds confiscated for bumhunting?
https://www.yourpokerdream.com/tobia...count-blocked/

After quick google. And there was Holz defending the site when someone mentioned he should defend the player.
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03-18-2021 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cametopunt
I have received a warning for bumhunting on GG but has anyone actually had funds confiscated for bumhunting?
I assume the warning came with the note that if you are caught doing it again, that they will confiscate your balance? If that's the case, I don't see the issue at all. They can have whatever rules they want as a private business.

The business is designed to generate rake, the business has huge expenses getting it to market, they are very upfront about who they do and don't want at their site. I believe 'pros' are welcome as long as they play by the rules set out by the site. and those rules are designed to prolong the life of rec players and therefore allow them to generate rake. its basic stuff honestly.
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03-18-2021 , 12:32 PM
Ok let me rephrase it, do they also ban winning MTT players?
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03-18-2021 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thexfale
Ok let me rephrase it, do they also ban winning MTT players?
Haven't heard / read any mtt grinder having any issues no matter how much they win. It's the same situation with like stars and most likely any other site they hate winning cash regs. They want b/e losing players where the house is the only winner.

E actually I might be wrong (not a surprise) apestyles got banned from gg after accusing of him using rta.
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03-18-2021 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by garbagetime
Probably
100% no they don't
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03-18-2021 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by peldini
100% no they don't
They did in the situation I linked. Returned the deposit and distributed the money he won back to the players.

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03-18-2021 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Esa_Perse
They did in the situation I linked. Returned the deposit and distributed the money he won back to the players.



As a rep, he can say that, but unless we have confirmation from 'bums' I am not so certain. As well, if this was a highly publicized occurrence, they may have chosen to take the high road on this occasion to look good, but other confiscated funds might not quite get there.
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03-18-2021 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dude45
Yea it's horrible that someone that puts food on the table and pays their bills with poker try and play in games they can beat
Yes. Get a real job and stop ruining my games.
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03-18-2021 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by thexfale
Ok let me rephrase it, do they also ban winning MTT players?
They banned a lot of pro MTT players back when they had the daily 10k tournaments with unlimited reentries that had a lot of massive whales playing.

There was a ban wave after where about 40 or so people were banned, accused of using RTA. Apestyles was one of those players. I havent heard of MTT players being banned after that.
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03-18-2021 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by peldini
As a rep, he can say that, but unless we have confirmation from 'bums' I am not so certain. As well, if this was a highly publicized occurrence, they may have chosen to take the high road on this occasion to look good, but other confiscated funds might not quite get there.
Unless we hear from those who got "bummed" that they didn't receive the moeny we can assume they did.
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03-18-2021 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
Confiscating player's balances for 'bum hunting' unless they've been put on notice that their behavior violates the site's rules is wrong.
It seems that you and many others in this thread missed the part about them only confiscating funds for repeat offenders.

First time offenders get a warning/temp ban. If you do it again, you deserve to have your money taken for being an idiot.


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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Yes. Get a real job and stop ruining my games.

Get better
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03-18-2021 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk

Get better
Im a hobby player and Im winning at NL100 at stars. Just lol@ people playing "for a living" who have to bumhunt to win. Those people are exclusively nits and ruin the games for everyone else. Good on GG for chasing them off their site.
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03-18-2021 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Im a hobby player and Im winning at NL100 at stars. Just lol@ people playing "for a living" who have to bumhunt to win. Those people are exclusively nits and ruin the games for everyone else. Good on GG for chasing them off their site.
You do realise this behaviour is a product of absurdly high rake across all sites? It is nearly impossible to win at all reg lineups when you are paying like 10bb rake lol.
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03-18-2021 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Yes. Get a real job and stop ruining my games.
What exactly do you consider a real job? Its cool if you want to be a fun player nothing wrong with that but dont hate on others for trying to actually learn the game.
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03-18-2021 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
It seems that you and many others in this thread missed the part about them only confiscating funds for repeat offenders.

First time offenders get a warning/temp ban. If you do it again, you deserve to have your money taken for being an idiot.





Get better
Or run all the better players out of the game
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03-18-2021 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
You really can't see a difference between a player who will play most of the time because they think they are better than the general population, and someone who will only ever play if there is a complete whale (and usually only play if their script is faster than the other 20 people that usually end up on a wait list in the same situation), giving no action otherwise, and then instantly leaving when the whale has been stacked?
What you describe is bad but im not entirely sure that's even what GG means by bum hunting as they're pretty vague
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03-18-2021 , 03:30 PM
GG clearly gives zero ****s about pros as is their right

Confiscating funds seems to go way too far especially without warning but if they want to ban bum hunters anyone complaining is being silly

These sites and poker rooms don't owe you me or anyone else a living
They didjt start their business to be nice,they did it to make money
If you don't like it play elsewhere
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