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FBI show up at friends house about FT FBI show up at friends house about FT

02-20-2010 , 04:21 AM
the only people that need to be worried are the brian townsend types that have publically wired 7 figures on and off the online poker sites.
02-20-2010 , 04:29 AM
He shouldn't pay his weed dealer with Full Tilt funds.
02-20-2010 , 04:34 AM
Why would this not be believable. I mean when the music piracy was the big thing didn't they sue some 16 year old for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Anything is possible.
02-20-2010 , 04:36 AM
what a crock of ****

i'm playing all the internet poker i want and these goons can kiss my ass

pieces of ****
02-20-2010 , 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kassdog
Why would this not be believable. I mean when the music piracy was the big thing didn't they sue some 16 year old for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Anything is possible.

A music company filing a lawsuit and a criminal investigation done by the FBI are 2 different things altogether DUCY
02-20-2010 , 04:49 AM
I call shanagins?
02-20-2010 , 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by fjjj1
edited to say - land of the free.. L-M-A-O
why does some ****** have to post this exact thing in every US-related thread, thinking it's original? i just imagine they go into burger king and order a whopper smeared with feces and when they say they won't make it, they get all righteously indignant and write a letter to the corporate office that says "your commercials clearly state 'have it your way'.. L-M-A-O"
02-20-2010 , 06:09 AM
They are probably investigating the site, not the player.

This has happened before with investigations in online sports betting sites. They have also sent letters to players before as well.

This is how they build cases against the processors - they look for players to testify that they received a payout and the money was for playing at a site.

Not saying this isn't shenanigans/someone isn't lying but it is definitely possbile.
02-20-2010 , 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by OnWithTheShow
They are probably investigating the site, not the player.

This has happened before with investigations in online sports betting sites. They have also sent letters to players before as well.

This is how they build cases against the processors - they look for players to testify that they received a payout and the money was for playing at a site.

Not saying this isn't shenanigans/someone isn't lying but it is definitely possbile.
This is basically what I was thinking, but not hoping is true.

And as far as the info of my post, I'm not lying. I have better things to do than lie on 2+2, trust me (I run a semi-large business). I'm just trying to do my due diligence and raise people's awareness. I highly doubt they approached my friend for some random reason.
02-20-2010 , 06:22 AM
If you want to do 'your due diligence', post in legislation
02-20-2010 , 06:22 AM
Can you ask your friend if he has done a lot of payouts or had any bounced checks?

Here is where it happened before to someone and the guy even posted the agent's business card:

http://forums.eog.com/online-sportsb...-my-47759.html
http://forums.eog.com/online-sportsb...ard-47766.html

They probably got his name through a processor he used that they busted or shut down or whatever.
02-20-2010 , 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Cole North
the only people that need to be worried are the brian townsend types that have publically wired 7 figures on and off the online poker sites.
You get a kick out of posting **** like this?
02-20-2010 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by OnWithTheShow
Can you ask your friend if he has done a lot of payouts or had any bounced checks?

Here is where it happened before to someone and the guy even posted the agent's business card:

http://forums.eog.com/online-sportsb...-my-47759.html
http://forums.eog.com/online-sportsb...ard-47766.html

They probably got his name through a processor he used that they busted or shut down or whatever.
Your links are about the IRS though, much different situation.

I will talk with him again tomorrow and ask for more details, and post on here.
02-20-2010 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LeapFrog
If you want to do 'your due diligence', post in legislation
This isn't legislation though. And I don't know more than I shared thus far. I was expecting maybe others had already been approached by agents and could shed some more light that I could share w/ my friend. I guess that's not the case yet.
02-20-2010 , 06:32 AM
The reason is this, its a felony in Washington. See, without the state law the Feds are hamstrung because the law is "unlawful internet gambling". You can't build a case against FT based on legal online poker and it is legal to play online in most states. But since its illegal in this particular state, this is where you go to build a Federal case against the site.

An online site is vunerable for not blocking out those states whose laws support the definitions in the Federal legislation. Maybe.

At least that is what occurs to me. The FBI would obv. be doing the leg work for the Justice Department if they were doing an assesment of whether or not a case could be brought.
02-20-2010 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy
This isn't legislation though. And I don't know more than I shared thus far. I was expecting maybe others had already been approached by agents and could shed some more light that I could share w/ my friend. I guess that's not the case yet.
I can assure you this information is appropriate for the legislation forum
02-20-2010 , 06:57 AM
he told you they came over to talk to him about his online poker activities. he failed to mention they also wanted to know about the assault rifles and C4 he has in the basement.
02-20-2010 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy
I know little beyond that he was asked about how many sites he played on, how much money he had on FT, and if he'd done any large transfers. I don't know anything else beyond that. I couldn't really talk to him at the time as I was out with my wife. If I get more details though I will post of course.
Fail. He should not have answered any questions. He should have called a lawyer and had him present during any questioning.

In the unlikely event anybody has the same thing happen, don't say ****. Ask them if you are legally required to answer their questions - they will obviously say no and then give you some tough guy response - ignore the touch guy response and don't say a word.
02-20-2010 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MrScabs
Fail. He should not have answered any questions. He should have called a lawyer and had him present during any questioning.

In the unlikely event anybody has the same thing happen, don't say ****. Ask them if you are legally required to answer their questions - they will obviously say no and then give you some tough guy response - ignore the touch guy response and don't say a word.
so unpatriotic in a financial crisis, FBI prob wants the best for u and ur country.
02-20-2010 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by chicken10der
why does some ****** have to post this exact thing in every US-related thread, thinking it's original? i just imagine they go into burger king and order a whopper smeared with feces and when they say they won't make it, they get all righteously indignant and write a letter to the corporate office that says "your commercials clearly state 'have it your way'.. L-M-A-O"
yea I know it's not original but your posts shows firstly how much you need to relax (decades of 'patriotism' indoctrination have programmed your over-reaction to things like this) and how much you need to wake up. You just likened this sorta situation to an irrelevant and obscure BK advertising scenario.. nice.

FBI can do good for the common man, there's no doubt about that. At the end of the day, they are an agency (think about that word, have you ever heard about an ad agency not being run for profit? etc.) run for _PROFIT_.
02-20-2010 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Cole North
lego - meh, nothing would suprise me anymore with the United States goverment these days.

you're talking about police who spend more time trying to bust underage college kids for drinking alcohol than getting rapist, molestors, murderers, and thieves off the street. they look for short-term money from fines, and nothing else unless it's balatantly obvious right in front of their nose.

everything is "about the money" these days. and if a cop becomes a cop to help out society, then rest assured the guy above him or the guy above that guy is all about the money and is gonna make the cop all about the money whether he likes it or not.
you definitely know your stuff
02-20-2010 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fjjj1
yea I know it's not original but your posts shows firstly how much you need to relax (decades of 'patriotism' indoctrination have programmed your over-reaction to things like this)
no, it's from years of dealing with '******ism' from overzealous morons that think posting "wake up, sheeple!" on the internet makes them important and enlightened
02-20-2010 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by chicken10der
no, it's from years of dealing with '******ism' from overzealous morons that think posting "wake up, sheeple!" on the internet makes them important and enlightened
fine whatever keep getting raped by 'officials', keep saluting your horizontally-lined flag
02-20-2010 , 09:32 AM
This is terrifying news.

Simply terrifying.

The agenda has been written in backrooms and in secret and talked about in Hushed whispers.

The new man in the seat is what now? He is beyond reproach.

What is the agenda? What is the opinion of the people who have delt with this.

Are they going to seize online accounts? Has this been done before?

Where is the law in this?

Who is behind seizing funds? Are the Tribal men at work. Are the casino men and lobby men handing out monies to do this?
02-20-2010 , 09:42 AM
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so unpatriotic in a financial crisis, FBI prob wants what they think is best for u.
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