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07-01-2018 , 03:32 AM
Damnnnnn, knife him when he's down! Kick the corpse!


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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth
Hi Everyone:

It looks like Negreanu is having it pretty tough right now. Here’s a link to an article about his goals for 2018:

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2018/...oals-29633.htm

And of course he has almost no understanding that setting goals for a game where the short-term luck factor is as high as it is in poker tournaments has little if any value.

And here’s a link to an interview he did where he talks about my not yet published poker psychology book (at that time) and says “that there isn’t anyone more unqualified to write a book on the subject than he is:

https://cardplayerlifestyle.com/inte...niel-negreanu/

Of course, Negreanu didn’t know that my book was based on mathematical modeling and statistical theory, subjects that he would know little about and which i’m well qualified to write about.

So, I guess it’s time for Negreanu, especially since some aspects of his personal life are not doing well, to spend more time and lots of money at The Choice Center.

Mason
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07-01-2018 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dont Tilt!
You sound really mad. Has he been living rent free in your head all this while?
it more like a timeshare between the two.
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07-01-2018 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
Mason:

If you watch Daniel Negreanu's vlogs, he clearly indicates that he never sets goals. He only sets intentions.

Thus, your criticism of him making goals that are in reality dependent on short term luck instead of actions that are within his control, is misguided.

A goal is something specific, measurable, achievable, realistic, and time bound, and most of all, dependent on one's own actions. Intentions are more vague and general and aimed mainly to provide a general direction rather than a specific destination.

Daniel understands short term luck pretty well and knows better than to set goals that are 90% dependent on short term luck, like bracelets won, winning particular amounts, etc. Anything based on short term luck are just intentions for Daniel.

When Daniel makes goals, it usually has to do with his own behaviors and actions: eating right, sleeping well, resting adequately, being optimistic, commitment to study, etc.

This is what people see in his vlogs.

p.s. Trooper is similar in a way.
Hi Registered 2018:

Well, let's take a look at this. Here's a link to Negreanu's "2018 Annual Poker Goals Blog:"

https://fullcontactpoker.com/2018-an...er-goals-blog/

He starts off by saying

For years now I have been posting an annual poker goals blog and 2018 will be no different. Each year I set between 8-10 poker specific goals and then look back at how it all unfolded. The goals I set are lofty, so I’m really not attached to the results in terms of seeing the year as a success or failure, but I’m a big believer in setting hard to reach goals.

That sounds like a serious goal setter to me.

In the CardPlayerLifestyle interview that I linked to above, and here it is again:

https://cardplayerlifestyle.com/inte...niel-negreanu/

and in this interview Negreanu states:

Goal setting is a big part of my life. I’m at my best when I’m looking to strive to become something, to achieve something, to better myself in one area or another, and again, that’s not necessarily for everyone because they might not deal with the failures as well as someone who is detached from results. I really think it’s important to be a goal setter.

Again, that sounds like a goal setter to me.

Now, since I'm not a Negreanu fan, I haven't listened to his vlogs. But if his view of goal setting is becoming more in line with how I see things, then that's probably good.

By the way, just to set the record straight here, I believe that it's important to find something you like to do and then to work hard at it. Of course, if you like it, it won't seem like work. Then add to that the ability to be flexible and the ability to seize opportunities as they arrive, which is something that goal setting makes difficult, and you should be on your way to having the best chance for success.

And finally, going back again to the CardPlayerLifestyle interview, Negreanu, when speaking of me says the following.

He basically says that he doesn’t goal-set, he doesn’t prepare, and I don’t believe him, because it’s not true.

Obviously this statement is false. While I don't goal set, I work hard and am well prepared for what I do.

Best wishes,
Mason
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07-01-2018 , 03:58 AM




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07-01-2018 , 04:01 AM


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07-01-2018 , 05:21 AM
Why can’t everyone just get along...
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07-01-2018 , 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
The way Daniel treated Marissa on those vlogs was cringeworthy.
You're right, but I really think that's just his personality. It's not just how he talks down to women. It's the whole package--from his little lapdogs, his painful attempts at humor, his need to mimic/mock the accent of everyone he talks to, his (frankly embarrassing) taste in music, his vanity (hair plugs, compulsive need to fill his vlog with constant "glamour shots" of getting massages and going to the gym, etc.), and really just his overall simpering "nice guy" routine complete with the mean and petty core shining through whenever there's the tiniest crack--it's his thing.

There are worse ways to be. He's definitely an alright guy by professional poker player standards. But yes, he is absolutely cringeworthy through and through. He defines the term.
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07-01-2018 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth
Hi Everyone:

It looks like Negreanu is having it pretty tough right now. Here’s a link to an article about his goals for 2018:

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2018/...oals-29633.htm

And of course he has almost no understanding that setting goals for a game where the short-term luck factor is as high as it is in poker tournaments has little if any value.

And here’s a link to an interview he did where he talks about my not yet published poker psychology book (at that time) and says “that there isn’t anyone more unqualified to write a book on the subject than he is:

https://cardplayerlifestyle.com/inte...niel-negreanu/

Of course, Negreanu didn’t know that my book was based on mathematical modeling and statistical theory, subjects that he would know little about and which i’m well qualified to write about.

So, I guess it’s time for Negreanu, especially since some aspects of his personal life are not doing well, to spend more time and lots of money at The Choice Center.

Mason
Schadenfreude!
How's the poker economy?
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07-01-2018 , 06:38 AM
I don't see how Daniel can ever have a successful relationship with an adult woman. AFAIC his mother was an angel, but she served him hand and foot and I can't imagine any woman watching the video's of DNegs being served fresh hot food at poker tournaments by his mom is optimistic either.
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07-01-2018 , 07:12 AM
so whatd Daniel do to get banned from 2+2? why talk about the guy if he cant post here and talk back ?
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07-01-2018 , 07:18 AM
lol Daniel is banned? Revenge is a *****.
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07-01-2018 , 08:46 AM
The Choice Center needles always get me.
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07-01-2018 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth
Hi Registered 2018:

Well, let's take a look at this. Here's a link to Negreanu's "2018 Annual Poker Goals Blog:"

https://fullcontactpoker.com/2018-an...er-goals-blog/

He starts off by saying

For years now I have been posting an annual poker goals blog and 2018 will be no different. Each year I set between 8-10 poker specific goals and then look back at how it all unfolded. The goals I set are lofty, so I’m really not attached to the results in terms of seeing the year as a success or failure, but I’m a big believer in setting hard to reach goals.

That sounds like a serious goal setter to me.

In the CardPlayerLifestyle interview that I linked to above, and here it is again:

https://cardplayerlifestyle.com/inte...niel-negreanu/

and in this interview Negreanu states:

Goal setting is a big part of my life. I’m at my best when I’m looking to strive to become something, to achieve something, to better myself in one area or another, and again, that’s not necessarily for everyone because they might not deal with the failures as well as someone who is detached from results. I really think it’s important to be a goal setter.

Again, that sounds like a goal setter to me.

Now, since I'm not a Negreanu fan, I haven't listened to his vlogs. But if his view of goal setting is becoming more in line with how I see things, then that's probably good.

By the way, just to set the record straight here, I believe that it's important to find something you like to do and then to work hard at it. Of course, if you like it, it won't seem like work. Then add to that the ability to be flexible and the ability to seize opportunities as they arrive, which is something that goal setting makes difficult, and you should be on your way to having the best chance for success.

And finally, going back again to the CardPlayerLifestyle interview, Negreanu, when speaking of me says the following.

He basically says that he doesn’t goal-set, he doesn’t prepare, and I don’t believe him, because it’s not true.

Obviously this statement is false. While I don't goal set, I work hard and am well prepared for what I do.

Best wishes,
Mason
I guess, Danny is different in interviews than he is in his vlog.

He really emphasizes intention vs goals in his vlogs. Like, he would say, "I intend to triple up in today's tournament by the dinner break." Then he'd go on to emphasize that it is an intention not a goal. He's fine and accepting if it does not happen, and seems to give himself mental room for the flexibility that's needed to either exploit or cope with the non-intended scenario.

Mason, I like your "non goal setting" approach. It reminds me of a concept called "informed opportunism" which was taught by Bob Waterman years ago in his book The Renewal Factor, which came after the classic In Search of Excellence.

Here is a short summary (PDF) of the book where "informed opportunism" is mentioned.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=h...ewalfactor.pdf
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07-01-2018 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by WhatsUpGuys
so whatd Daniel do to get banned from 2+2? why talk about the guy if he cant post here and talk back ?
Is he really still banned? I heard that some power tripping mods banned him years ago for talking about an event he was taking part in--claiming he was advertising or something ridiculous like that.

I figured that would have been undone a long time ago though.
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07-01-2018 , 01:20 PM
His account is not banned. Way to grunge the thread and be as impressionable as Danny.
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07-01-2018 , 01:20 PM
AFAIK he's not banned he just took his ball and went home. Too bad as it would be a blast watching the hysterical catfight and race to the bottom between him and Mason. (Still fun with just Mason but could be better.)
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07-01-2018 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Videopro
His account is not banned. Way to grunge the thread and be as impressionable as Danny.
Sure, of course that's what the power tripping mod would say.
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07-01-2018 , 01:45 PM
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07-01-2018 , 02:48 PM
Forget about the money Dr. Evil, give me that baby.
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07-01-2018 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
I guess, Danny is different in interviews than he is in his vlog.

He really emphasizes intention vs goals in his vlogs. Like, he would say, "I intend to triple up in today's tournament by the dinner break." Then he'd go on to emphasize that it is an intention not a goal. He's fine and accepting if it does not happen, and seems to give himself mental room for the flexibility that's needed to either exploit or cope with the non-intended scenario.

Mason, I like your "non goal setting" approach. It reminds me of a concept called "informed opportunism" which was taught by Bob Waterman years ago in his book The Renewal Factor, which came after the classic In Search of Excellence.

Here is a short summary (PDF) of the book where "informed opportunism" is mentioned.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=h...ewalfactor.pdf
Hi Registered:

I assume, but don’t really know, that most of the set goals stuff that Negreanu calls for is derived from his Choice Center experience. Perhaps he’s beginning to learn that the ability to think more freely is, in my opinion, a far better approach and you’re seeing that in his more recent videos.

And speaking of thinking freely, in the past I recommended to him to read 1984 by George Orwell and Free to Choose by Milton Friedman. I also believe both of these books would help him to accept other viewpoints better, not be so negative towards people such as myself, and to contribute more positively to some of the causes that would benefit poker.

Best wishes,
Mason

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07-01-2018 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
AFAIK he's not banned he just took his ball and went home. Too bad as it would be a blast watching the hysterical catfight and race to the bottom between him and Mason. (Still fun with just Mason but could be better.)
this is correct. renegs isn't banned. he was engaging with some people in a thread a few years ago about pokerstars "exciting changes", but when i (along with the help of some savvy posters) checkmated him on the SNE reneg and his tendency to back up people he personally likes and crush people he personally doesn't like without regards of the facts, he took his ball and went home. (Cliffs was that we had a video of him crushing annie duke for doing exactly what David Baazov did)

what makes renegs such a dangerous person is that he appears smart and honorable to casual players, and you have to be pretty informed to understand that everything he says is essentially total garbage
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07-02-2018 , 02:51 AM
Who is the girl in Daniel's latest video with the dogs?
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07-02-2018 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicagodude
Who is the girl in Daniel's latest video with the dogs?
Marissa's twin sister, Maliyah (sp?)
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07-04-2018 , 05:47 AM
So someone is saying Daniel is having a rough time in his personal life right now? How?
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07-04-2018 , 07:11 AM
I seriously hope he cashes the Main event and one drop to even out his ROI a bit from the WSOP, he's doing better now
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