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Old 10-15-2009, 06:35 AM   #1
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Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

After Starting with 200 Big bets at the Bellagio 10K HORSE event, Andy became annoyed that at the crucial point in the tournament, the average stack only had 12 big bets, (enough to play 1 hand with raises, or 2 unraised hands).

Andy_Bloch: 12 big bet avg. Why did we start with 200 big bets? RT @howardhlederer: 7 players left with 108k average stack. About to play 4k-8k

then this tweet....

Andy_Bloch: Im tired of bad structures, high rake & other nonsense. Time to start organizing our own poker tournaments. @savagepoker (Matt Savage)you in?

.........


Is he really serious? I would be all for a new tourney series with low rake, and reasonable blind levels and structure.
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:40 AM   #2
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

oh reallllllllly...
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:50 AM   #3
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

Andy Bloch.... Almost as big of a joke as Chainsaw.

Seriously, what exactly do you think happens in Limit tournaments? Personally, I show up at least 50 min late to any high stakes limit tourney as the first two levels are pretty worthless (due to low blinds). If you want to talk about the later levels jumping too fast, fine. But even there, you need to reach that equilibrium which turns out to be about 10-12 BB avg stacks (for online and high stakes live LIMIT tourneys).
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:02 AM   #4
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

Tournaments.....LoL.
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:21 AM   #5
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

why did nobody else think about doing tournaments with better (longer?) structures and less rake? where its also more unlikely to win for the worse players?

sounds like a great business plan
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:13 AM   #6
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I'm tired of ppl bitching about tournament structes. Structure sheets are readily availible before any tourny you play. If you dont like it....then dont play. imo
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:19 AM   #7
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I'm tired of ppl bitching about tournament structes. Structure sheets are readily availible before any tourny you play. If you dont like it....then dont play. imo
Wow, that simple? Nobody's allowed to suggest changes to the structure?
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:32 AM   #8
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

Maybe Andy should file a lawsuit.

The 10k HORSE started with 19 players, I'd think Jack and co. expected a few more than that.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:04 AM   #9
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

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After Starting with 200 Big bets at the Bellagio 10K HORSE event, Andy became annoyed that at the crucial point in the tournament, the average stack only had 12 big bets, (enough to play 1 hand with raises, or 2 unraised hands).

Andy_Bloch: 12 big bet avg. Why did we start with 200 big bets? RT @howardhlederer: 7 players left with 108k average stack. About to play 4k-8k

then this tweet....

Andy_Bloch: Im tired of bad structures, high rake & other nonsense. Time to start organizing our own poker tournaments. @savagepoker (Matt Savage)you in?

.........


Is he really serious? I would be all for a new tourney series with low rake, and reasonable blind levels and structure.

Allen, will this be organized as a charity event? because no BUSINESS entity with a mandate to MAKE money will host your tourneys. you want a tournament to have great structures, have low rake, hire professional dealers, be conducted in a professional and comfortable setting, be great for all the players (the aggros as well as the nitts), and still be profitable for the host casino/entity? NOT GOING TO HAPPEN...

Borgata comes very very close to delivering most of those points, but then some complain of a slightly higher than some rakes...that's probably as good as you're going to get
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:08 AM   #10
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

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why did nobody else think about doing tournaments with better (longer?) structures and less rake? where its also more unlikely to win for the worse players?

sounds like a great business plan
but what if you win the tourney with a bad structure? the brilliancy of OP is that he usually leaves the complaining for AFTER he busts out, gets shut-out of a tourney, or min-cashes and ends up NOT winning it...but if he happen to win one, he will never complain how bad the structure was...
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:13 AM   #11
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

well full tilt pays for his BI's anyways what he bitching about
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:41 AM   #12
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Tournaments.....LoL.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:42 AM   #13
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

As soon as I "got into" Twitter I followed all the poker players that tweet regularly. Needless to say, not a lot of them do I still follow. Annie Duke was one of the very first to go. And Joe Sebok just got unfollowed not that long ago. But Andy Bloch is probably the next to go. I have rarely read a positive tweet from him. It just kinda wears on ya after a while.

People I still follow and enjoy reading:
Daniel Negreanu
Howard Lederer (most of the time)
Erik Seidel (can be pretty funny sometimes)
Vanessa Rousso (a little more upbeat than most poker players)
and anyone else that just tweets during tourneys
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Old 10-15-2009, 04:44 PM   #14
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

Apparently Matt Savage has signed on to be TD for Andy Blochs events...

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@Andy_Bloch You know I am in!
about 13 hours ago from web in reply to Andy_Bloch
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Old 10-15-2009, 04:56 PM   #15
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Apparently Matt Savage has signed on to be TD for Andy Blochs events...

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@Andy_Bloch You know I am in!
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Don't you think these news deserve their own thread?
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Old 10-15-2009, 04:59 PM   #16
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

.....it's a limit tourny. You could add 6 extra levels in the late stages of this tourny it will end up the same. It will just take 6 levels longer to get everyone to 10 bb stacks.
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Old 10-15-2009, 05:20 PM   #17
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

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Apparently Matt Savage has signed on to be TD for Andy Blochs events...

Via twitter....from @savagepoker

@Andy_Bloch You know I am in!
about 13 hours ago from web in reply to Andy_Bloch
But you don't like Matt's structures in limit events, so what tournaments will that leave you playing?
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Old 10-15-2009, 05:27 PM   #18
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

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Apparently Matt Savage has signed on to be TD for Andy Blochs events...

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@Andy_Bloch You know I am in!
about 13 hours ago from web in reply to Andy_Bloch
someone alert the global media
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Old 10-15-2009, 05:59 PM   #19
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

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Old 10-15-2009, 06:05 PM   #20
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

He should start one together with Chris Ferguson and Howard Lederer

They could call it "Charisma"
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:07 PM   #21
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:26 PM   #22
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

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Apparently Matt Savage has signed on to be TD for Andy Blochs events...

Via twitter....from @savagepoker

@Andy_Bloch You know I am in!
about 13 hours ago from web in reply to Andy_Bloch
With all do respect to Matt, as I believe he is one of the best TDs around...but he is a freelancer and goes wherever, as long as someone pays his fees.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:04 PM   #23
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Re: Andy Bloch threatens via Twitter to start his own Poker Tour

doublejoker, werent you at southpoint casino playing the star wars penny slots wednesday?
i wouldnt worry about tourney rake as much as i would your slots selection!
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:18 PM   #24
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doublejoker, werent you at southpoint casino playing the star wars penny slots wednesday?
i wouldnt worry about tourney rake as much as i would your slots selection!
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:55 PM   #25
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doublejoker, werent you at southpoint casino playing the star wars penny slots wednesday?
i wouldnt worry about tourney rake as much as i would your slots selection!
So i should pass by a positive EV situation?
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