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01-31-2013 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
It just goes down from there - forehead = king, eye = queen, etc.. Scratching your balls = pocket 2's.
Lol. Nh.
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01-31-2013 , 05:20 AM
Just saw this photoshop on a french site. ROFL
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01-31-2013 , 05:48 AM
Here's a LINK to a CardPlayer (France) page where Pasqualini responds to the latest accusations.

Dated: 30 janvier 2013 / À LA UNE, LAST MINUTE, NEWS

I ran it through Gogle Translate and there's a bit of attacking the attacker rather than the issue..
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Google translate leaves something to be desired.
Last part:

"I know what I did.
I won this tournament in an honest way.
Thank you kindly publish this on your site right immediately answer me avoiding capture Justice. '"


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Found this page while searching for shoppable-pix, but looking back I see others itt may have mentioned this particular response.. i'll leave it here anyway.

Last edited by joeschmoe; 01-31-2013 at 06:02 AM.
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01-31-2013 , 10:14 AM
Here is the translation in French about Gianni's interview after his 3rd place at Partouche Poker Tour 2009 :

http://www.pokerenligne.com/actualit...outes-202.html

The original interview from this website :

http://www.gioconews.it/i-campioni/g...i-me-3507.html
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01-31-2013 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by joeschmoe
Here's a LINK to a CardPlayer (France) page where Pasqualini responds to the latest accusations.
English is my 2nd language and French my 3rd but here's a short translation

Cliffs: He claims that the author of the video notified Partouche 2-3 years ago and that the Partouche group reviewed the entire footage of the final table and found absolutely nothing. He than claims that the seriousness of Partouche's reviewing can not be questionned (lol) since they disqualified another player in the next year (who is not French ldo).
He also says he didn't know Rossi.
Why this video? Why me? Why now? Why not 3 years ago? Well maybe because the author of the video didn't have promotion to do back then (so apparently now he does i guess? I have no clue)
He also points out that other people were scratching their heads as well (case closed then i guess lolololol)

Sucks so hard for the old italian guy, makes me kinda sad
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01-31-2013 , 11:00 AM
I can't think of a pokerplayer who'd raise fold AK with 8 big blinds. Not one.... even if he flipped over his aces by accident.....
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01-31-2013 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JayJune
actually perfect would be if gianni used the signals to stack one and then crush the other HU
I hope this is a level (if so, then WP I guess), but if he was HU with one of them I think the cheater would probably stop giving the signals.
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01-31-2013 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
It just goes down from there - forehead = king, eye = queen, etc.. Scratching your balls = pocket 2's.
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01-31-2013 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
that pockets 10s rght
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01-31-2013 , 02:32 PM
I watched about an hour or so of the unedited video and I gotta say that both Pasqualini and Rossi were running pretty damn good.

Youtube has at least 4 parts, each roughly an hour long, from 2009 (search Partouche Poker Tour 2). I think they are Russian voice but it doesn't matter.

I watched almost all of part 3. iirc, it begins with Pasqualini as the short stack. He doubles a couple of times at least.. Wins some big pots. Catching cards.. Plays pretty strong too.
Didn't see much of Rossi in that Part 3.
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01-31-2013 , 03:57 PM
we are looking for the whole vids of this final table, any helps would be appreciated here: if you know smdy that got an archive of partouche poker tour II 2009, broadcasted on eurosport. the 22th of november, 2009.
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01-31-2013 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by loorent
we are looking for the whole vids of this final table, any helps would be appreciated here: if you know smdy that got an archive of partouche poker tour II 2009, broadcasted on eurosport. the 22th of november, 2009.

It's in Russian, but it's all here:


Part one

Part two


Part three


Part four


Bonne chance
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01-31-2013 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
I hope this is a level (if so, then WP I guess), but if he was HU with one of them I think the cheater would probably stop giving the signals.
he didnt even say that the guy then would use the signals hu, thats what you interprete into it. He says would be nice if the guy woudl have used the signals to stack ONE of them and then crush the other hu, meaning just simply outplaying him...

i hope this i hope this was a level was a level by you
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01-31-2013 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by loorent
we are looking for the whole vids of this final table, any helps would be appreciated here: if you know smdy that got an archive of partouche poker tour II 2009, broadcasted on eurosport. the 22th of november, 2009.
Report back here if you end up finding more damning evidence; i don't know who made that first youtube vid, but it's possible they included all of the most damning bits...or alternatively it's possible there are far more, and he left a bunch more out. Either way report back. Also, i forget the answer to this Q: but were they only signaling when they were BOTH in a hand together? Or would they signal folded cards too...guessing the former. Though if it's the latter, then there should be more than enough evidence to bury them if they're signaling reliably in every freaking hand.
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01-31-2013 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBump
It's in Russian, but it's all here:

Part one

Part two


Part three


Part four


Bonne chance
merci

we already found theses, but it is a summary of the PPT. what we are looking for is the whole broadcast of the final table (~15hours ?)

figuring perhaps somebody played final or semi final would have recorded it.
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01-31-2013 , 08:27 PM
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01-31-2013 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Urnehe
I can't think of a pokerplayer who'd raise fold AK with 8 big blinds. Not one.... even if he flipped over his aces by accident.....
Did he really have 8bbs?

So disgusting, get these mfs pls.
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02-01-2013 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Pot Odds RAC
I hope this is a level (if so, then WP I guess), but if he was HU with one of them I think the cheater would probably stop giving the signals.

no level, you just misread...unless they are hooked up with that camera dude
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02-01-2013 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by afallacy
I play competetive video games on the side from poker. The french are known as by far the biggest cheaters in the scene. French canadians have absolutely 0 respect from the communities.
lol, i got a warning from the mods a few years back for echoing this exact sentiment. i guess it could be misconstrued as 'racist' (as it was, i believe) however you can't argue with facts :P always good to see some other competitive gamers playing poker
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02-04-2013 , 07:07 PM
I havent watched this video but read the whole thread and I am sure when I do finally sit down to watch it, I will be even more disgusted. Especially the part when that assclown smirks when he lays down his AK....what a doucher.

I was sad to hear that the guy in 3rd place passed away. Angry to hear that he even suspected something was up and these bastards running the show told him basically to piss off.

I am happy someone broke this story and have to laugh at these cheaters trying to claim that everything was on the level.

It will only be a matter of time when someone falls victim and they will take matters into their own hands and I will not feel one bit of remorse for these people or anyone else who tries these kinds of things because they brought it onto themselves.

Sick. As if poker needs yet another blemish.

Sigh.
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02-04-2013 , 09:38 PM
wow that final hand was so sick. rossi telegraphs the entire time that he has a bad hand and does not connect. Pasqualini motions he has QT. rossi bets big on the flop with 5 high(knowing Pasq has middle pair with gutshot), rossi gives the disgust look, Pasqualini calls. check on turn. Pasqualini checks river, rossi shoves with a pair of 3s into what is essentially the nuts(straight).

two hands prior to this he shoves with 7 high, trying to end the tournament as soon as possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnEkd...MIyxg&index=18
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02-04-2013 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mindraider
wow that final hand was so sick. rossi telegraphs the entire time that he has a bad hand and does not connect. Pasqualini motions he has QT. rossi bets big on the flop with 5 high(knowing Pasq has middle pair with gutshot), rossi gives the disgust look, Pasqualini calls. check on turn. Pasqualini checks river, rossi shoves with a pair of 3s into what is essentially the nuts(straight).

two hands prior to this he shoves with 7 high, trying to end the tournament as soon as possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnEkd...MIyxg&index=18
Almost guaranteed to go home with top prize, but has to be a wanker that takes it to the next step and out-douche a fellow douche. Wow.

Guys on the Podcast show mentioned the thread. Had to check it out. Was thinking these ******s at their table must be so stupid they wouldn't have to cheat if they were continually giving these tells away and no one picked up on it.

Cheers Kevmath.
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02-04-2013 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GizYaChips
Was thinking these ******s at their table must be so stupid they wouldn't have to cheat if they were continually giving these tells away and no one picked up on it.
Things are easier with hindsight. Lots of people watched the stream and it doesn't look like a single viewer noticed this back then.
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02-05-2013 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Raymoth
[ ] Alleged
[x] Blatant

Disgusting....
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02-05-2013 , 05:19 AM
So i repost here.
Not much reaction... ?

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Originally Posted by MaxVegas
It's about to be one of the biggest scandal in poker in France indeed.

Strange there's no reaction here, or few, or about "French are cheaters".
We are not, and the more than 100 pages of the topic on Club Poker can attest this will go far.

Maybe you're more safe in US, casino know how to deal with that (i think so, to have been playing in different places in Vegas, Paris, Macao).

A lot to say about this BOMB, if you are interested ?
Some reactions of pros, some weird silences from Partouche, no investigation yet (and maybe not at all...), some friends of the cheaters, etc.

It goes far beyong those two guys : when will we have regulations, autorities, associations, rules for rooms live and online ? Yes online too the cheat is possible, just with a phone, no ? Is there some treads about all that here ? How to improve the image of the poker as a sport and so, how to avoid and control those problems ?

Sorry for my english, i'm a poor froggy And a little tired after reading all this buzz those past days on french forums...

À bientôt

http://www.clubpoker.net/affaire-pas...mension/n-7305
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