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Are you for or against any prosecution of Trump? Are you for or against any prosecution of Trump?
View Poll Results: Should Trump be investigated and charged with any crimes he may have committed after leaving WH
Yes
168 84.42%
No
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12-12-2020 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CheckCheckFold
Not that far actually

The contamination in this analogy are ideas. To fight it you need to be direct and strong. Use strong clear language, not the soft indirect mush that democratic politicians has been using.

Call lies out as lies and don't use euphemisms like "alternative facts"

When something is dumb and stupid say it's dumb and stupid

Simple direct everyday language.


I think of ideas as flowers and we get to watch them grow, and then decide which ones we want to look at. I don't really think ideas can be killed because anyone cant just plant a new flower or idea. Instead of forcibly trying to kill all the bad flowers we can just leave all the ideas to grow on their own and then choose to look at the ones we like best.
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12-12-2020 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GodgersWOAT
Bryce,
Your thoughts on the settlers theft of Natives’ land?
That was a robbery and mass murder, not larceny.
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12-12-2020 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Multiple counts of obstruction of justice
Bribery
Fraud
Tax evasion
Violations of the foreign corrupt practices act
Money laundering

That's a pretty good start.
Big if true
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12-12-2020 , 05:33 AM
I assume there could be some sexual assault and rape investigations and possibly charges to be dealt with.
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12-12-2020 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Sure. We have a whole billion dollar apolitical criminal justice system that is supposed to handle stuff like this. If an ambitious DA has enough evidence of clear and specific crimes to get a grand jury to indict I see no reason why Trump should get special treatment. We've thrown mayors, governors and attorneys general in jail before.
Different story with a president. He likely knows about a ton of dirt powerful people would want to keep hidden. If he’s facing prison, he’ll turn it into a circus and all sorts of classified stuff will come out. Never mind the fact that he probably has an audiotape library that would put Nixon to shame. He’s protected.
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12-12-2020 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Adebisi
Different story with a president. He likely knows about a ton of dirt powerful people would want to keep hidden. If he’s facing prison, he’ll turn it into a circus and all sorts of classified stuff will come out. Never mind the fact that he probably has an audiotape library that would put Nixon to shame. He’s protected.
Let's get that circus started!
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12-12-2020 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
That was a robbery and mass murder, not larceny.
Of course there were many pacific tribes whose land was not taken by violent force, because none was needed by the thieves.

Are they still protected under your theory of the law?
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12-12-2020 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Adebisi
Different story with a president. He likely knows about a ton of dirt powerful people would want to keep hidden. If he’s facing prison, he’ll turn it into a circus and all sorts of classified stuff will come out. Never mind the fact that he probably has an audiotape library that would put Nixon to shame. He’s protected.
That will happen regardless.

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12-12-2020 , 09:57 AM
These prominent voices should be tried for treason:

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12-12-2020 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by GodgersWOAT
That will happen regardless.

Being a reviled billionaire and tearing the whole system down generally aren’t two things that go hand in hand. Theatrics aside.
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12-12-2020 , 11:43 AM
If Mueller couldn’t take him down, nor any thing came up pre election. Neither is some DA in New York post election.

Nothing will happen.
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12-12-2020 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GodgersWOAT
I say we Nuremberg Trump and all the traitors.

The allies thought it might be counter productive, perceived as a show trial, or foster hatred and resentment from the German people.


Many Germans claimed they didn’t know the depths of the depravity until the bright lights were shined on it for months and months of trial. Of course many of them were fos, but the sheer weight of evidence ultimately became insurmountably factual.

The best disinfectant is sunlight, and we need a lot of it now to purge this country of its diseased 73 million adults.
I agree with this.

There will always be conspiracy theories around the Trump presidency and the best way to keep it to the fringe as much as possible is overwhelming factual information in the public square.

We know the conspiracists will fill that space up otherwise.
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12-12-2020 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I assume there could be some sexual assault and rape investigations and possibly charges to be dealt with.
Yes, but the statute of limitations for many of these doesn't do us any favors.
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12-12-2020 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
If Mueller couldn’t take him down, nor any thing came up pre election. Neither is some DA in New York post election.

Nothing will happen.
Tien you need to stay hidden in the safe space zone of the BFI as this garbage won't fly here.

Trump without the POTUS power to refuse to be interviewed by Mueller would have easily been taken down. Even his own lawyers trying to prep for an interview said he could not help but lie, even when he did not need to.

Mueller also gave other prosecutors enough info that he may be taken down.

So you are living in fantasy land if you think what you saw with Mueller was an attempt and a failure when he stuck to one narrow mandate while ignoring all the other.
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12-12-2020 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
If Mueller couldn’t take him down, nor any thing came up pre election. Neither is some DA in New York post election.

Nothing will happen.
Mueller was obviously constrained by what he perceived as the OLC’s hold on his authority.

SDNY is free to act. And they will.
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12-12-2020 , 01:33 PM
Seems like a great way to create further division between groups
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12-12-2020 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyLond
Seems like a great way to create further division between groups
This was a thought the Allies had before Nuremberg. If we prosecute the Nazis, the German people will take it worse than they took the humiliation of Versailles. The prosecution will create a monster worse than the Third Reich.

Thank God they didn’t let that cowardly attitude win the day.
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12-12-2020 , 05:04 PM
Sure if there's credible evidence to charge and try him.
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12-12-2020 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GodgersWOAT
Mueller was obviously constrained by what he perceived as the OLC’s hold on his authority.

SDNY is free to act. And they will.
Nothing I have read in any publication makes me confident anything will happen.

Giving 1 evaluation of networth to the banks while showing a different valuation to tax authorities? Every developer does that in every city of the world.

Good luck getting anything to result from that.
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12-12-2020 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Tien you need to stay hidden in the safe space zone of the BFI as this garbage won't fly here.

Trump without the POTUS power to refuse to be interviewed by Mueller would have easily been taken down. Even his own lawyers trying to prep for an interview said he could not help but lie, even when he did not need to.

Mueller also gave other prosecutors enough info that he may be taken down.

So you are living in fantasy land if you think what you saw with Mueller was an attempt and a failure when he stuck to one narrow mandate while ignoring all the other.
I ran up the score against you in BFI after you made up lies to try to score an argument.

Whats the highest online poker stakes you have played at regularly.
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12-12-2020 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GodgersWOAT
That will happen regardless.



I would like to see EVERYTHING declassified.

Then all will KNOW, rather than just speculate, how evil the government is.
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12-12-2020 , 07:03 PM
GWB and BHO can share a cell with Trump.
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12-12-2020 , 07:09 PM
If George W can make up a story about WMD, not get punished for it or convicted for it. Nothing will happen to Trump.
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12-12-2020 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Yes, but the statute of limitations for many of these doesn't do us any favors.
Dammit, I always forget about that.

But then, that gets me thinking that maybe we shouldn't be expecting anything to come of it, since nothing has to this point. I would've thought that if any of those women were looking to move ahead with a criminal case, there would be concern about the statute of limitations if they waited, which would lead someone to proceed. I know there is the possibility that a President can't be indicted, but I don't believe it's ever been properly addressed by the courts. But I may be misunderstanding that, or underestimating the difficulty in proceeding with cases while he was in power.

If it is the case that anyone wanted to move forward, but had to hold off for four years and as a result can no longer go ahead, that's ****ed up.
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12-12-2020 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tien
If George W can make up a story about WMD, not get punished for it or convicted for it. Nothing will happen to Trump.
Sad but probably true
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