cHiNESe dO IT tOoOOOOOooOOO

The Chinese propagandize their citizens--now sit back and enjoy the Kool-aid here too, ok?

Wookie, have you read the last few posts ITT? It isn't just the US and China naming viruses after the places they came from. As I mentioned a few posts ago the Spanish named the Spanish Flu the French Flu because that is where they thought it came from while the rest of Europe called it the Spanish Flu because they thought that is where it came from.

So... to fix your post: EvEryOne eLse dOEs IT tOoOOOOOooOOO

Sounds like it's a dumb, inconsistent naming system that's designed to stigmatize people and whip up xenophobia.

Actually it is much much worse. You are here getting outraged that Trump used the term "Chinese virus" and meanwhile there is about 1 billion Chinese people that actually believe that COVID was an American bioweapons attack (I'll give the rest of them the benefit of the doubt they know their govt is full of ****, even if they can't admit it without severe punishment).

Whatever your concerns that 40% of Americans are ok calling COVID "the Chinese virus," guess what the ramifications of 1 billion Chinese thinking we have basically declared war on them with a bioweapons attack is gonna be a hell of a lot greater.

Sorry, is there a person here posting that it was an American construction for me to correct?

Surreal that the Chinese government is trying to sell to the outside world that the virus came from the States.

Do they think anyone is going to buy that nonsense, after its been widely recorded that they silenced their own doctors trying to warn people?

Hell, people here were saying it originated in N.Carolina iirc in the conspiracy/Qanon realm. Amongst other things. There's a ton of weird info flying around out there.

I dont think they are really trying to sell it to the outside world. They are selling it to their own people, a lot of whom are ignorant and very incentivized to follow the party line (because they will be punished if they don't)

The H&F guy I was talking about that teaches in China, they have a mat at the front of the school of the US flag for everyone to wipe their feet on. He said the anti-US sentiment is extremely strong, and constantly getting stronger, and it is all because of anti-US govt propaganda.

You guys think everything was hunky-dory and then Trump came around and started a trade war and a propaganda war against China. The truth is China has been waging a one-sided trade and propaganda war against us for a very long time, and our neoliberal elite leadership has kept it completely suppressed from the US public because they personally are making so much $$ from all the shenanigans going on, where all the costs are being pushed down to the US middle and lower classes.

That is the scariest part of human nature, our ability to believe anything.

They have been mucking around in many countries internal affairs. In such a regime it seems to me that they are flooding the west with fentanyl to worsen the opioid crises and weaken entire countries.

This is a very scary Government they have in China atm, with Xi being like an Emperor with complete power.

We(England and numerous American families) flooded their country with opium for ~a couple centuries. Payback's a *****.

Wubonic Plague

Chinese are just as stupid as British and Americans, so yes.

yall just mad that the CIA lost their market for all that Afghani Heroin.

Anti-US sentiment is really strong I'm pretty sure across the world (and not without reason)--not just in places where there is active propaganda. It isn't too hard to see that the world has a lot of problems and that the US is a part of a lot of them.

We need to be able to like posts.

it's doubtful that they care that much what the outside world thinks its more for your own population. much like what trump was doing, it's about selling an "other" for everyone to rally against and hate so that you can deflect all blame for your own failures.

we have more than enough examples of this in history that no one should have been confused about what was going on when Trump started this. people tend to overuse comparisons to hitler, but this is exactly what hitler and his party did..

Well, with China it is a bit more pragmatic and calculated. I think it is more calculated planning for the future, than any emotionally driven animus for past actions.

Most people seem to agree their long game strategy is to directly take back Taiwan, and basically make all of East Asia their sphere of influence. As part of the strategy it seems they need to manipulate a certain % of their population towards having very strong anti-American sentiment, and this is the aim of their propaganda campaigns. They also have extremely strong propaganda against Japanese, ostensibly for the atrocities of WWII, and it will be interesting to see how Japan responds (will they militarize and start their own nuclear weapons programs?) as US influence wains and they have to contend directly with China influence and aggression.

Anyways, in the context of this crisis, it is clear that their strategy to pay off the corrupt WHO director-general to say everything was fine and to recommend to keep travel and trade open as long as it did, all while they had a pretty good idea exactly how it was going to play out, was a masterstroke.

And whenever anyone said it was a bad idea all they had to do is start fake crying racism, and all the neoliberal wokester patsies (like the ones in this forum that are still beating the "open borders and trade don't spread the virus" drum) would jump on their white horses and start beating the "That's racist" drum to drown out reason.

If China comes out of this relatively unscathed, which appears to be the case, and are able to convince a significant % of their population coronavirus was a US military plot, it will be interesting to see if this accelerates their timeline for East Asia domination.

You are grossly overstating anti-US sentiment and how much the US is to blame for the world's problems. While most people don't appreciate how much the US has done to reduce world poverty - I don't think there are that many people outside of a few countries who really don't like Americans.

Hell, trump's new favorite 'news' channel was saying the same thing not too long ago https://www.mediamatters.org/coronav...us-was-created

Even in the countries with a lot of government sponsored anti-American propaganda (China, Iran, Qatar, etc.) I think a lot of people privately are able to compartmentalize it is just politics, and don't hate Americans. Although I could be wrong.

There is a difference between having anti-US sentiment/blaming the US for the world's problems vs being anti-American. People are able to make that distinction. But I've been in lots of social situations travelling in South America where I'm the only USAian and seen it first hand. It's basically impossible for any discussion of geopolitics/global affairs not to involve the US in some way and I have a hard time thinking of any time where I've heard the US presented in a positive way.

Pretty common for me to hear this when I visit Japan. I was visiting my brother in Taiwan a couple months ago and talked to a bunch of political staffers and volunteers and they were more pro-US influence than not. I had a conversation with someone at a Taiwanese Toastmasters meeting who didn't understand why Trump was unpopular in the US since (he thought) Trump was using his business experience to successfully make the American economy stronger. Obviously not a random sample, just relaying anecdotes.

No doubt my sample of vagabonds, the sort of people who stay at hostels, and young Europeans who spend months at a time backpacking around South America is also far from random and skews heavily toward them having anti-American sentiment. But if I had a dollar for everytime I heard someone complain about the prices in Ecuador (because they use USD) and then look at me like I'm responsible then I could buy a few things at least.