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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
I would agree that the line between "incarceration" and "murder" exists on the slippery slope rather than being completely different. To accept the possibility of wrongfully jailing a man for life isn't that different from accepting the possibility of wrongfully killing a man. The former will happen, especially if in penal systems with a soft spot for jailing people for life.
Of course, when you jail people, there is a greater chance you will discover when and where you went wrong. That is important. It is harder for the dead to make their case, and it is harder for others to make it on behalf of the dead.
I'd say that is a good argument against using death sentences often, but I'm unconvinced that it is a good argument for never using them at all. In a hypothetical scenario where we jail Hitler, it is not as if we would have any doubts in regards to his crimes against humanity.
At this point this is not not really a matter of logic however, it is more about attitudes, opinions and emotions.
I don't think a hitler is a kind of good example because certainty isn't that rare, Hitler alive might be useful to be tortured to reveal secrets or to show his supporters their leader becoming just a weak man behind bars and whatnot.
the death penalty is useful for repeated offenders, in those cases the chances of having caught an innocent are basically nil.
the vast majority of violent, antisocial, destructive crimes are committed by a small minority of people who are serial criminals.
you often have even video evidence these days.
you know all those times someone "already known to law enforcement" ends up doing something really really bad? well those are the people we should all have executed at the first time we had a chance.
think of it like 3 times and you are dead instead of "strike out".
the obsession with single, extremely "mediatic" cases where the perpetrator isn't 100% certain is a way to mess up with the concept itself. I could even be ok with no death penalty for the first offence no matter how monstrous.
but members of violent gangs or terrorist organizations and so on should all be executed for example and you are not going to execute an innocent ever when you do that.
being a part of a criminal organization that regularly wages violence should be more than enough to deserve the death penalty