yeah i imagine given how exposed he was, he probably shot the second he crawled into a firing position

So you're saying that "ear" was a good result? Hardly seems worth it.

this is true. 150m is an easy hit if you're properly set up. it's not clear how much time he had to set up. and adrenaline gotta be going a thousand. if he quickly crawled into position, raised the rifle and shot, hitting the ear is pretty good. if he had more time, and was properly set up, anything less than a middle of the head shot is pretty damn bad. not sure if he had iron sights or a scope, but you'd think he would've properly calibrated it ahead of time. maybe he didn't which would be max lol

Probably a dumb question, but why are we not aiming this tub of lard centre mass? Seems like a much bigger target.

I'm not sure why anyone is assuming this guy was some sort of highly-trained sniper.

If you shoot a lot picking up a gun and quickly nailing a target at a ~100yds isn't really too difficult. The big stressor is being in the wide open/probably jacked on adrenaline and doing that knowing the inevitable incoming rounds land in seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sut9pcNvTUs#t=13m20s


witness said the kid was up on the roof for several minutes. unclear how much of that was crawling vs him getting or being set up

It couldn't possibly be the same sort of people who:

A) Made up a story about urinating Russian hookers in order to attempt a failed impeachment in the first year of his legitimate election

B) Released a highly contagious flu virus during an election year so they could overreact to it by trashing the economy, increasing depression and misery, and most importantly insist on mail in voting (aka the most unsecure form of voting ever conceived)

C) Rigged the election against him with the willing participation of the prestige media, social media and Mark Zuckerberg's 400 million dollars to ballot harvest in only Dem areas.

D) Stole the election

E) Set up his fans on Jan 6 by purposely under protecting the Capitol building, planting Feds in the crowd to incite them to go into the building and then stand around while the trespassers did next to nothing of note once they got into the building.

F) Raided his home for BS all former Presidents could be raided for, all the while hoping to shoot him there if his protectors were anything but cooperative.

G) Railroaded him in three different indictments so they could tarnish him as a "convicted felon"

H) Now fear the stooge they installed as POTUS in 2020 is no longer viable.

Self preservation is the #1 motive for murder.
Not since JFK has a President/former President been so antagonistic to our unelected and unaccountable intelligence apparatus.
How did that work out for Jack?

Still, it will be deemed a random, lone gunman who now resides in Epsteinville.
A coordinated effort by a cabal goes against probability models.

Lone, dead nutbag is a much tidier answer.

please take your "covid was released to tarnish trump" conspiratard to the correct conspiratard containment thread

I'm not. I'm suggesting that with the help of posters in this thread, he could have been.

Horseface, you sound like the most qualified here. Any insights on this?

Bro, do you even play videogames? Headshot is where it's at.

The serious answer is that this guy just wasn't very good at being an assassin.

Well yeah, but in video games if you miss and get picked off, you get to respawn. Seems like if you get one shot, one opportunity, you've got to capture it rather than letting it slip.

An industry known for staging scenes of violence that are extremely convincing.

Eh, convincing to whom? Or was that the joke?

I’m guessing he had the wrong optic, wasn’t zeroed properly and hadn’t trained.

Thank god he missed.

Saw the overhead. It seems like a roof that SS could have been on, not just covering.

Not many people are, fortunately. I'm a terrible rifle shot -- generally hit the target somewhere, but not the bull except by a one-in-five chance. Lee Oswald was rated a very good rifle shot in the Marines, though once he'd proved it (and it's simply a knack) he stopped bothering, characteristically, and was graded quite low the next time. On the day, of course, he shot well, though it still took him three goes, and was armed with an excellent rifle -- you can disregard Oliver Stone's nonsense about 'the world's worst shoulder weapon' -- plus a scope, and the range was quite close.

In Dallas, the Secret Service should have asked local police to restrict access to the upper floors of buildings on Main and in Dealey Plaza while the motorcade was passing. This time, there was obviously a security failure because a man carrying a rifle, which is difficult to conceal, shouldn't have been allowed to reach a vantage point.

I replied to you but I wasn't really replying to you. My bad.

If you can have a few seconds to shot a coupla rounds (semi-auto rifle), then center mass is the target unless you are a very capable shot (Chris Kyle.... .50 caliber which is way Biglier than .22). Classic pattern (for self-defense close in work) is two to the body then one to the head.

I have heard that the rifle was a .22 and/but I am not that knowledgeable on rifles. If a .22, then windage may have been an issue since the lead is very lightweight. Also... and again this is limited rifle knowledge.... I would think a single shot from that distance would need to get awfully "lucky" to hit centermass IN A CRITICAL SPOT for a kill. If successful with a headshot, the chances are better for success.

Is there something definitive out there that the ear was from a bullet and not a richochet/shrapnel thing?

I’ve read teleprompter glass, then seen that “bullet photo” thing.

I'm no crimescene detective, but the probabililty of a ricochet hitting trump perfectly in the ear seems astronomically low.

No lower than it hitting anywhere else, unless you mean intentionally.

the teleprompters looked fine after