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10-31-2022 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
No he was not, again you show your lack of social intelligence.

first of all he is dead. secondly he was a very kind person from all I heard.
Sure, rappers who own vicious dogs are always respectable nice guys.

At least he's dead, so there's one good thing about him. I wonder how many people he killed in his lifetime.
10-31-2022 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
ngl I enjoy DMX at some level but also his music was one of the most virulently homophobic stuff out there.
Seems pretty hypocritical for you to like something on any level which is anti homosexuali given your views expressed here.
10-31-2022 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Sure, rappers who own vicious dogs are always respectable nice guys.

At least he's dead, so there's one good thing about him. I wonder how many people he killed in his lifetime.
Damn Chilli. That's pretty harsh.
10-31-2022 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Damn Chilli. That's pretty harsh.
Maybe he didn't kill anyone, but he had a huge criminal record, including assault of a person and abuse of his pitbulls.

https://medium.com/crimebeat/every-c...d-4c153845280e
10-31-2022 , 07:03 PM
Chilly thinks all rappers are bad alright.

can you guys see my logo? I just added one.
10-31-2022 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Maybe he didn't kill anyone, but he had a huge criminal record, including assault of a person and abuse of his pitbulls.

https://medium.com/crimebeat/every-c...d-4c153845280e

he had a rough environment. do you know his bio?
10-31-2022 , 07:09 PM
there are nice pitbulls where you dont even know its a pitbull right lucky?





you see chilly, thats a pit bull here:


Tom&Jerry


10-31-2022 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
he had a rough environment. do you know his bio?
I read part of it from that article. Do you believe having a troubled childhood entitles you to assault people and torture animals?

I had a troubled childhood myself. I wish I had murdered my father while I was under 18 and could have gotten away with it. It never made me assault anyone though.
10-31-2022 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I read part of it from that article. Do you believe having a troubled childhood entitles you to assault people and torture animals?

I had a troubled childhood myself. I wish I had murdered my father while I was under 18 and could have gotten away with it. It never made me assault anyone though.
I think you might make things up there. tortured animals?
what did he do? it says he kept 12 dogs at his home there in arizona, that must have been next to luckys brother. ask lucky if the dogs had it bad there. they lived at a dog lovers house. probabably a better life for for the dogs than for 90% of all other dogs.
https://medium.com/crimebeat/every-c...d-4c153845280e


where is the problem? why is that aminal cruelty?
11-01-2022 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by washoe
I think you might make things up there. tortured animals?
what did he do? it says he kept 12 dogs at his home there in arizona, that must have been next to luckys brother. ask lucky if the dogs had it bad there. they lived at a dog lovers house. probabably a better life for for the dogs than for 90% of all other dogs.
https://medium.com/crimebeat/every-c...d-4c153845280e


where is the problem? why is that aminal cruelty?
I didn't make anything up, I just read the article I posted. Did you? He pled guilty and was convicted of several charges of animal cruelty at least two different times. I don't know any details about it.
11-01-2022 , 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by washoe
I think you might make things up there. tortured animals?
what did he do? it says he kept 12 dogs at his home there in arizona, that must have been next to luckys brother. ask lucky if the dogs had it bad there. they lived at a dog lovers house. probabably a better life for for the dogs than for 90% of all other dogs.
https://medium.com/crimebeat/every-c...d-4c153845280e


where is the problem? why is that aminal cruelty?
This was the second time he had been charged with animal cruelty. I don't doubt that in his mind he thought he loved his dogs but in reality it appears it was abuse. He had been approached multiple times for leaving his dogs out in the sun without shelter or water before the arrest. That's abuse.

https://www.tmz.com/2007/10/06/dmx-a...eport-results/


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Authorities investigating animal cruelty allegations on rapper DMX's Arizona property have issued their gruesome findings.

The investigation stems from an Aug. 24 raid of DMX's Phoenix home, where police were probing reports of animal neglect. Police seized 12 live pit bulls, numerous weapons and about a quarter-ounce of marijuana.

Now forensic reports from a veterinarian examiner from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office states that the condition of animal remains found on the property were "significantly decomposed, the head and rear quarters and legs had a white trash bag around them; the body was wrapped in a dirt-stained beige fitted sheet and inside a clear plastic bag; all placed inside a white body bag." The forensic report also stated that "severe decomposition prevented further examination." There was determinable evidence of injury to just one set of remains.

A detective's summary of the cruelty allegations lists seven different visits to DMX's home, from August 3-22, with several attempts made by the County Sheriff to resolve the issue of alleged neglect of dogs at the residence. The detective actually gave the dogs water. Finally, after no improvement of conditions, a raid took place August 24, seizing 12 pit bulls.

No charges have been filed against the 36-year-old rapper. The matter is still under investigation. Click here to view the documents.
11-01-2022 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I didn't make anything up, I just read the article I posted. Did you? He pled guilty and was convicted of several charges of animal cruelty at least two different times. I don't know any details about it.
that's what his lawyer said:

" DMX's lawyer, Murray Richman, said: "How do you attribute activities to a person who has not been there, when they have knowledge that other persons have been. Is it because of the celebrity nature?"

No charges have yet been filed against the 36-year-old rapper."

https://www.tmz.com/2007/09/23/dmxs-...d-when-buried/


so it seems he had someone else looking out for the dogs while traveling. 12 pitbulls, you gonna have bitings among the dogs. I don't want to downplay this, but that is probably where the injuries came from.

he had problems. where did he grow up? how did he grow up? his mother was 19 when she had him, his dad too.
11-01-2022 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I read part of it from that article. Do you believe having a troubled childhood entitles you to assault people and torture animals?

I had a troubled childhood myself. I wish I had murdered my father while I was under 18 and could have gotten away with it. It never made me assault anyone though.
you shouldn't be saying that.

you had food and shelter right? then you had a better uprising than 90% of the world's population.
11-01-2022 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
you shouldn't be saying that.

you had food and shelter right? then you had a better uprising than 90% of the world's population.
I shouldn't be saying what?

Yes, I had food and shelter. So did DMX. And even if he hadn't, that doesn't excuse his extensive lawbreaking. 90% of the world's population isn't assaulting people.
11-01-2022 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I shouldn't be saying what?

Yes, I had food and shelter. So did DMX. And even if he hadn't, that doesn't excuse his extensive lawbreaking. 90% of the world's population isn't assaulting people.
https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/t...-sean-connery/


because you would have ended in penetentary and then ended up in a spiral of violence and crime. possibly murder more people. and it would have been wrong. the guy gave you food and money and a roof, didn't he? what did he do that pissed you off so much? religion? you wouldn't even be here without him. gratitude?
11-01-2022 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
You're off your rocker. What does any of this have to do with Sean Connery? Did he own pitbulls as well?
11-01-2022 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
You're off your rocker. What does any of this have to do with Sean Connery? Did he own pitbulls as well?
no but he beat his wife.
11-01-2022 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
no but he beat his wife.
Yes, lots of people did that. I disapprove. I still don't get what that has to do with a thread about pitbullsm
11-02-2022 , 07:04 AM


This guy has learned that if he hangs out by the food vendors he'll often get a free snack-- watched a guy feed him a big chunk of meat last night. Seems like a very nice dog although given the way he took the meat from the guy, I wouldn't be feeding him directly by hand.
11-02-2022 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Yes, lots of people did that. I disapprove. I still don't get what that has to do with a thread about pitbullsm

you said 90% of people never assaulted anyone. I disagree, its less.
11-02-2022 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc


This guy has learned that if he hangs out by the food vendors he'll often get a free snack-- watched a guy feed him a big chunk of meat last night. Seems like a very nice dog although given the way he took the meat from the guy, I wouldn't be feeding him directly by hand.

that looks like a friendly dog. mexicam vendor there, are you in mexico? looks like it.
11-02-2022 , 07:53 AM
Colombia.

Dogs roam free here and if you get bitten by one it is your fault and not the dog's.
11-02-2022 , 08:09 AM
The only thing I ask as a minimum in this debate about restricting the ownership of pit bulls is to not class them as assistance dogs.
11-02-2022 , 11:03 AM
I was just in Tucson AZ a few weeks ago and was surprised (but not) by seeing roaming pairs of dogs, living the 'wild' life.

I was not shocked because I have seen some of those rescue video in areas like that and California and as such I know there can be lots of 'wild' dogs, but outside my travels in the Caribbean, I have never encounter it. It is just not a thing in Canada, that I know of nor any of the usual US or European cities I have visited.

It's an interesting thing to think about as the dogs that grow up that way do not seem distressed or to hate their lives. They pair off generally or form small packs and that seems adequate for them but then there is also no denying that when they are grabbed up and socialized and put in a home, they seem to adapt instantly to being a very good and happy family dog. Vancouver is actually a huge destination for those type of 'rescue' dogs from Cali and Mexico and elsewhere so I meet owners with them often.
11-02-2022 , 01:21 PM
I haven't spent a lot of time in Tucson but not too surprised to learn that dogs are roaming free there.

If you're ever there again, hit me up as I'm oftentimes in Phoenix and always looking for excuses to head to southern Arizona.

      
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