Still many reasons to reject besides skin color.

General similarity is always something humans look for - something different is never good to allow into job interviews.

I'm sure if they checked for middle eastern names or hispanic or somali, whatever, it wouldn't work as well. (If the boss is named David). If the boss is named Jamal, maybe Jerome would be in. By the way jerome powell got a job.

I like sowell's take above. I kind of like traditional names. It means that the person's parents didn't try for a big unique identiy for their child, are more likely more traditional, which may align with the manager's temperment.

Yeah, we know you like racial prejudice. You've said so repeatedly.

Think you're not getting the context. would you want a heart surgeon who got into med school because of affirmative action?

what do you mean by racial?

You literally have no idea how traditional Jamal is based on a resume, not that being traditional or not is a job qualification. You're just assuming he's not based on racial identifiers.

Yeah, this is super racist.

Define racist please.

I dunno, I think we need to ask corpus vile to really be sure.

no i'm talking about having an unconscious like for someone based on familiarty

pretty much a truism in psychology

Did the study check for names like Mustafa or Mohammed? Pretty sure same results would occurr

Racism is many things, but one thing is judging that people of a certain race are inferior, all else being equal. If you worry about your surgeon being inferior when the only thing you know about him is that he's a Black surgeon, you're racist. Concocting a bunch of bullshit about maybe he was an "affirmative action admission" to med school (lol) is racism.

I think those names would get rejected more too!



An unconscious preference for a white hiring manager to prefer people like himself?

when you're about to go under surgery for your life? I think you're lying that wouldn't pop into your head. you'd want the best (always go ugly and bald if possible)

well you can accuse the whole world of that.

You'd have to apply for jobs for the Mohammeds as Steve. And see if the same occurrs, have a feeling it might.

Ah, not only racist, but also sexist! Cool.

It doesn't cease to be racism just because it's common.

no but with the way you're describing "racism" here (i would say it's a desire to be around people of the same culture as you) you're calling every human being on the planet a racist.

bleating, bleating, bleating sheep!

No, not all of them. Just a lot of them. The racist ones.

So just so I understand, an unconscious desire to be around people who are culturally similar to you makes you racist?

Basically.

I think you mean the South They started shooting first. But we closed that little chapter and overall were pretty nice about it all things considered--aside from the morons who want a do-over--for what reason we can only wonder lol.

We still haven't righted the wrong though--the original attempt was basically scrapped. And that's just reality.


Also--lol@ Sorry we stole 'hundreds of trillions' How about we teach you how to balance a budget/invest and call it even instead? Whattya say? Sounds pretty good to me

Well, if you act on it. It's not racist to recognize the impulse and then realize that it's silly.

If my surgeon has been working at a good hospital for a decade or whatever, my working assumption is going to be that the surgeon is highly competent, regardless of his or her race or ethnicity. Hospitals have a lot of incentives not to let incompetent surgeons operate on people.

Also, a lot of people have delusions about what affirmative action means in the real world. Harvard Medical School isn't admitting random idiots just because they are black, Latino, or whatever. EVERY person admitted to that medical school was an exceptional undergraduate student and did very well on the MCATs. To the extent there are differences in grades and MCATs among students with different backgrounds, the differences are quite minor.

So you would consider the idea of nations and nationality a racist idea?

Man, I wonder if a distrust of people who got into an institution of higher education for reasons other than their academic qualifications is a principle esspoker applies universally!