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So, a run of the mill talking head type with a bit of a bonus? You took what I said to imply what you wanted it to imply. I just meant that shes completely unoffensive to any liberal person. You don't make millions and get to the pinnacle of your career without merit.

Good point.

This cracked me up lol.

You've never heard of Steve Doocey, I see.

I don't know what you mean by this. The liberal side isn't happy about the concentration camps, so it would be inaccurate for me to say that. They are actually mad about it, which is a credit to their character.

Empathy isn't being "charitable" in characterizing your views, man. You're so used to the relentless political correctness about right wing politics in this country that you break down into sobs when you see how leftists talk about politics, ok, that sucks for you I guess? That's my empathy. That's the maximum amount of empathy I'll extend to you.

But I'm not going to pretend that conservative views on health care and immigration and LGBT rights are something other than that what they clearly are out of respect for your feelings. That's something more you're asking, that's a favor, and no. Not gonna happen.

You mean like how Trolly could never be able to say positive things about Peterson?

So this the part of the thread that's like a political debate when they ask each candidate to say something nice about the other candidate?

I mean, Jordan Peterson characterizes himself as a liberal, so it's pretty open-minded for a liberal like me to dunk on him, if you think about it.

ChrisV, suzzer, microbet, and yuv (among others I'm sure I'm forgetting) are cracking up at the idea of Fly always being charitable towards liberals.

There's always something going on that's kind of relevant



Civility!




But he didn't call Joe Biden a n word lover to his face so tribalism averted

That is actually an interesting observation, that who the out of group other is is very situational, and there is nothing like an outside threat to bring disparate people together into a unified front.

In Wookie's forum where non leftists were not tolerated at all, people with varying degrees of leftism would be in conflict. However, in a true open forum, like this one, people like Fly and Suzzer would never take shots at each other. They would always show a unified front against the new other (eg. me and Luckbox). In this forum iteration I doubt any of the "woke" crew have taken any shot at each other at all.

This is very well understood sociological concept. It is no accident that pretty much every alien invasion movie/book ever made involves all the people of the world who couldn't ever get along before putting aside their differences and banding together against the common alien enemy; because this is how human sociology works and probably pretty close to what would happen in such an occurrence.

I wonder if Jamil Smith ever had a bad thing to say about any of the non white candidates? I am going to go out on a limb and say no. He is probably an extremely strong tribal ideologue, his tribe is just a lot narrower than D vs R and VERY race focused, and involves open hostility towards white people, even democratic ones, who don't emphatically stand up to racism (in his mind).

It might even go so far that he literally has nothing good to say about anyone white at all as a matter of principle. I dont know him at all. But from this one tweet it wouldn't surprise me at all, because ideology is fairly predictable.

Well, I went down the rabbit hole a little, and he is extremely tribal and ideological, as one would expect, but it does seem to transcend race to an extent. Most of his negative energy is focused towards what he perceives as white racism, and most of his praise is for POC, as one would expect, but he did have a couple nice things to say about Warren and RBG, so I will acknowledge when my predictions aren't 100% accurate.

Like every 5 posts this dude just jumps from the top rope. They don't self-regulate, well named, they never have, they never will.

Your track record at guessing about people you've never heard of based on, uh, one tweet and being black is not real strong! Smith was a major Clinton backer in 2016, he's a fairly establishment Democrat, he just happens to be black. It's not that you dislike identity politics, you're just ****ing terrible at it.

I guess that all that **** about IQ in the IDW thread was kinda pointless, a direct quote about blacks being the inferior race still gets a "(in his mind)" caveat. for ****'s sake

I guess you missed the post where I acknowledged this already. Or it doesn't fit your narrative, so you conveniently ignore it, per usual.

Fair enough. Like every other human being, I am prone to make predictions/assumptions/stereotypes based on the information I have, and then (hopefully) refine them as new information is presented. Maybe I overestimate my ability to do the former accurately and underestimate how well I do the latter, so I will try to be cognizant of this moving forward.

Don Lemon appreciates your flattery.

I doubt you'd be able to find a single elected official who resembles this characterization.

Do you really have a hard time understanding why a black guy might want to call attention to a democratic candidate speaking affectionately of someone with that kind of history?

It was probably a completely insincere comment to generate interest from people who would otherwise be donating to republicans but it sure doesn't look good.

It's quite amusing to see people taking shots at your point because it's not 100% true when it's clearly true that in P, most liberal lefties were rarely criticise for over-stating things a bit (to put it very mildly). It's an example of your very point.

But your point while largely true within it's scope does miss a fair bit because
a) there are lefty liberals who approach it differently - WN and I to pick two very obvious examples and,
b) to the groupists, there are other groups. In particular not being in the left liberal group that behave the way you point out, tends to put you in another out group to them even when you are a lefty liberal.

"Aww it's such a nice day out, sunny and mild!"

"oh you're part of the sunny and mild tribe. Have you ever said anything good about the rain? I would go as far as to say you've never said anything good about extreme temperatures or anything good about tornados. Hurricanes? I didn't think so.

I have been to exiled politics a couple times (from a clean IP, don't worry Wookie, I am still IP banned there). For the most part neither you or WN are thought of very highly there (to put it very mildly). The word "Chezfront" comes up a lot.

I dont watch CNN (or Fox News FWIW). I am sure Don Lemon is good at what he does, or he wouldn't have lasted as long as he has. TV news seems to be a pretty cutthroat business, so I would not expect there to be a lot of incompetent people that lasted a long time.

Most elected officials aren't ideologues, at least not in public. That being said, I actually think on both the right and left I could find members where as far as who they criticize/praise there is a very strong tribal pattern that goes along race/sex/other identity lines.

No one’s yet come up with a good name for this new venue.