I see absolutely no evidence that Trump has been able to silence or intimidate his critics in the media. 90% of the MSM coverage of Trump is highly critical of him, and Fox is mostly in the tank for him, just as it has in the tank for every GOP candidate in the last 25-30 years.

I would ask the same question I asked before. What do you think the US would like if Trump had absolute power? Anyone who thinks the US would look pretty much the same is being wayyyyyy too charitable to Trump imo. And if you agree with me that things would be much worse if Trump were emperor, then it follows that the reason why things are not worse is because Trunmp has weakened the country's institutions but has not destroyed them.

I actually think Bill Barr is the more dangerous one. Trump wants power, but Barr knows how to wield it.

I think if Trump got a second term and has the same Senate or a stronger position you WILL see Bill Barr go after, and jail many of Trumps 'perceived enemies'.

We've seen it already with Sen. Richard Burr, who seems to be blatantly politically targeted as Barr's way to warn top House leaders 'You look into Trump, and I will look into you'. And many of these top politicians have careers filled with things they have done that tip toe the legal line and the last thing you want is Bill Barr digging thru and forcing you into court to defend it.

The media makes a ton of money either fighting him or being Trumps mouth piece so they won't change.

I also think in a second term Trump puts any and all things up for sale. You want mining rights in protected areas, talk to Jared and make us a personal offer that enriches us and we'll clear the way.

Want us out of NATO, The WHO, or need the US to disown any country and pull support so you can invade. Talk to Jared and make us an offer.

It is a great deal for other countries as deals between countries can be tradeoffs of billions and billions per deal. Just cut a check directly to the Trump family for much less and get what you want.

Reality often times plays out in a much simpler way. Trump will lose badly and drag republicans with him. Many already know it is coming, and they are praying for Biden getting confused and talking to a wall to help turn it around for them (a possibility). When the orange moron loses to the walking corpse the orange guy will have a tantrum of sorts and toss his "you all know this was rigged" whatever, but he no longer is a winner and much of his previous supporters will be quiet. There will be no equivalent picture of Trump meeting Biden, the Biden team will pretend Trump and his people does not even exist for the "transition."

Trump will not refuse to leave, he will look at it as an opportunity to have his own TV network and the trumpderps that want to slurp it up will get that chance. Will be amusing to see how Fox News loves that competitive effort, since - money. Book after book will come out from insiders about his idiotic this guy was, but nobody will care that much, though he will be able to say accurately that he had more people at his inauguration than Biden.

Trump will tweet nonstop after and be allowed to be in his full crazy glory and it will matter less and less each passing day. Whether Biden even knows where he is will also not matter that much. He is the temporary person for the job, much like that pope who stepped down a couple years ago that nobody remembers.

Trumpderps, while initially upset, will eventually be happy to be back in their position of complaining about everything without having to be accountable for anything.

Shoves 100 big blinds pre after one old lady open limps.

Takes down the pot.

Thinks he's 'the man'.

Feel free to toss in your insightful predictions and we can see how things play out, though I appreciate when people in this forum try to still talk poker - that is so utterly adorable!

All the best,

Ya I think that is enormously likely and quite frankly it would be smart for Trump, if you consider simply the economics.

If Trump losses he will also fling feces at Fox News in large chunks.

If Trump launched the Trump News Network, and managed to get Hannity, Tucker, Dobbs and other of the loudest mouths that support him to join by offering them equity stakes and they claimed it was the ONLY PLACE you were going to get the true dirt on how Biden and Democrats stole the election, and the unveiling of the Russia Hoax, etc, they could well shift most of Trumps diehard base instantly to that network.

Those would be huge numbers by any networks standards.

if they could also host and maintain a Social Media arm within it to platform the types of speech that Twitter and Facebook will increasingly continue to limit, that again could have massive value .


Look at how rich Howard Stern got with Sirius. The Trump News Network with a Social Media arm could launch with a valuation and numbers as big or bigger than Sirius has today.

Odds are very much he makes a fuss and leaves if voted out.
But there is a less than zero chance he'll stall or refuse to leave.
That less than zero chance is interesting to think about on a political forum.

You thinking your smart because you know something that's obvious is....what's the word I need to describe you ?.....oh yeah, adorable.

Like a child who just learned something and can't wait to share.

Let's be a bit more civil. It is possible to state these opinions without name-calling or being very sarcastic. Same goes for slurs for Trump-supporters.

I am sure he made his best effort to be civil, so I always give credit where credit is due, and he wants to spend time talking and thinking about something that he stated has a less than zero chance of happening, so we can move onto that topic, as I would be quite curious to have him explain his math behind that. Perhaps he can give a theoretical poker hand to help explain it.

You're an adult now. Time to start making these decisions for yourself.

I wrote 'less than' when I meant 'non'. Which is amusing.

You have no idea that TD was talking to both of us and responded with more sarcasm. Which is even more amusing.

Giving monteroy the slightest taste of what he showers this board in is just fine imo. Although it is pretty funny that he ran and told the mods.

As well, I know I would be curious for Victor to quote the post that he interpreted as someone running to tell the mods anything. That could be fun to see how English works for him, and after that we can talk more about your sub-zero stuff.

All the best.

It was only me reacting to the thread, and probably derailed it a bit too.

My take is that these scenarios are outlandish and unlikely, but the last 3 years have seen many norms set aside and many laws flaunted in US politics - to the subject should at least be of interest.

I think the subject of discussion is fine, but nobody needs to start building bunkers.

Exactly. Bunkers are overrated.

Forts are pretty awesome though.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/...-wasnt-pretty/

Bipartison group wargamed Trump refusing to concede. I hope the report will be public, sounds like it will be an epic read.

No matter who wins this the election the other side is going to claim rigging of mail in votes or some other reason and total chaos will ensure, possibly civil way. The Illuminati Globalists will then offer their solution to this problem that they themselves created. Order Out of Chaos.

Any politician with absolute power would make America look different. Your issue is thinking that there are good politicians in the world. Anyone who goes out of their way to become a politician will be a narcissistic/bad person by default.

You guys get too stuck up on the emotional side of things. The only thing you should care about is the results.

We need Newt Gingrich again. He ushered in an era of morality.

Interesting article and yes the report would be interesting.

this 'both sides' stuff does not fly.

It is a clear Republican tactic that whenever they know they will be accused of something, where there is proof, they rush to accuse Dems of doing it, so when the info comes out it simply looks like the Dems are making a Tit for Tat accusations.

Some recent examples:

- reports were just about to come out to published and come out about Rudy Giuliani's meddling in Ukraine for his and POTUS personal enrichment. - Rudy rushes on to the Coumo show and accuses Biden of meddling in Ukraine.

- Court findings re Gerry Mandering were abut to be leveled as GOP - GOP in advance screams about Dem gerrymandering to which there is no court findings

- Election fraud findings by GOP court findings about to come out - GOP screams about Dem election fraud despite no court findings

- GOP and Trump scream about election interference on behalf of the Dem's - it is proven Russia was interfering on behalf of Trump and GOP

- and so on and so on.


The one thing you can count on is whenever the GOP and Trump start screaming about something bad the Dems are doing, is that we are about to get PROOF of the GOP and Trump doing it and being outed.

That play book is clear.

why does this all matter? if ever there was a mortal lock trump is it. book it and go to the riches valley

A lot of politicians are narcissistic *******s, but a lot of people in a lot of professions are narcissistic *******s. I've known some politicians who I am quite confident are quite decent people. And I know a former member of Congress who I am 100% certain is a good person, certainly a better person than most people who post in this forum.

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