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07-31-2024 , 01:51 PM

#426

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

So why he keep confirming a claim that is based on nothing about crime being worst under Biden ?

Because that's when everyone stopped reporting crimes. Duh.

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07-31-2024 , 01:51 PM

#427

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So why he keep confirming a claim that is based on nothing about crime being worst under Biden ?

You do realize its how safe do you feel in your community. Its not about stats . Yes illegals cause less crime than non illegals but tell that to the folks that had someone murdered by an illegal alien . Its like telling folks the economy is great and the stock market is at record highs. Well if you have no stocks and find it harder to make ends meet today than 4 years ago your not going to go oh wow the USA leads the G7 in growth

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07-31-2024 , 01:57 PM

#428

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Originally Posted by Bubble_Balls

He is Trump first and only. That this isn’t immediately obvious to anyone is amazing.

And note that pretty much any country with a higher standard of living than the U.S. have policies that Republicans have convinced you will be the death of America.

You are correct. It is Trump first America second. One thing you won't hear at a Harris rally is "USA! USA! USA!"

I envy those folks who live in those countries. Unfortunately I fear they have gone too far with their liberal immigration policies.

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07-31-2024 , 02:00 PM

#429

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You are correct. It is Trump first America second.

#NotACult

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07-31-2024 , 02:32 PM

#430

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Originally Posted by tame_deuces

Now, the criticism against the democratic candidate is that she is, *checks notes*, a former prosecutor and district attorney and attorney general who prosecuted homicide, burglary, robbery and sexual assault cases and with a good track record to boot.

And she laughs. Apparently this laugh is annoying to some people.

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You are correct. It is Trump first America second.

Ah, just the quality one wants from a leader.

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One thing you won't hear at a Harris rally is "USA! USA! USA!"

LOL. I'm not even a little surprised that you see that as a bad thing.

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07-31-2024 , 02:35 PM

#431

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Originally Posted by mongidig

It's what I see and what I hear.

There are thousands of videos of car jackings, Flash-mob robberies, drive by shootings, old ladies getting randomly punched etc.

I talk to people from NY who say it's back to being a dump. They don't ride the subway anymore.

ThatÂ’s a wild exaggeration. IÂ’ve got friends and family that ride it every day. I was there a few months ago. I noticed more cops in the subway but it doesnÂ’t seem markedly different than when I lived there. Assaults have risen but other major violent crime is down. I have heard there is a perception of increased violence but itÂ’s in no way a dump, other than being eye-wateringly expensive.

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07-31-2024 , 02:38 PM

#432

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That is not a viable option all you can see what goes on around you take a decent size city that I lived in and I had a knife pulled on me in a liquor store as I stepped in front of a young man walking out with 3-4 bottles of booze he intended to steal . The man told me to move after pulling out a blade or he would kill me. Of course I moved when I asked the clerk did he want me to stick around for the cops he said nope not calling them this happens 5 times a day we just stopped reporting it .

I know many folks had stuff stolen and if its under a certain limit don't bother to report it as Insurance deductibles are so high

Ah okay, you pulled it from where I thought you did.

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07-31-2024 , 02:41 PM

#433

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I dunno, if I’m at a rally in the USA supporting my presidential candidate I’d prefer they constantly chant USA so I can be sure I’m not supporting the next Russian Czar. I heard Kamala was the czar of something or the other so seems pertinent

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07-31-2024 , 02:55 PM

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Ah okay, you pulled it from where I thought you did.

Yeah I guess politico and all those polled are pulling it out of there ass as well

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/1...-guns-00060393

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07-31-2024 , 02:59 PM

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Fine but you do realize one local experience do not represent the entire country right ?
Like the economy too ….

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07-31-2024 , 03:04 PM

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Wow what a reliable sample size to make your claims .

lol , like the bs video u see on Facebook are all real …setting up video to gain click is a non existing thing .

Btw u shouldn’t u see millions of video instead of thousand to be concern when u live in a country exceeding 300 millions population?

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07-31-2024 , 03:05 PM

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Yeah I guess politico and all those polled are pulling it out of there ass as well

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/1...-guns-00060393

No where is there anything about most people having given up reporting crime.

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07-31-2024 , 05:03 PM

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If I presented you with data that showed crime rates dropping, even in liberal cities, would that change your opinion, or do you instead believe that a more reliable measure is how many videos you can find? We could even stick to murder if you'd like since I doubt there's an issue with people reporting that crime.

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07-31-2024 , 05:13 PM

#439

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Well thats the thing. They hate facts.

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07-31-2024 , 05:33 PM

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We care about what is happening now. Under Liberal leadership cities are becoming unlivable because of the crime. This country is becoming more and more immoral. It's time to focus on family values. Under Harris that clearly won't happen.

do you live or even visit one of those cities that are "becoming unlivable"?

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07-31-2024 , 05:35 PM

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crime fearmongering is one of my favorite white angst things.

just so scared of horror movies that showed a home invasion that they must happen every where all the time. stranger danger.

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07-31-2024 , 07:05 PM

#442

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Burglaries and home invasions have dropped a lot in the last 10 years - likely due to better doorbell cameras and security apps as well most idiots realizing a difference in the risk/reward between entering some random persons house and taking that **** from walmart.

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08-01-2024 , 01:06 AM

#443

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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

They are all real. I don't go on Facebook.

Just go on You Tube and put in "Flash mob robbery" or "Old lady getting randomly punched".

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08-01-2024 , 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Slighted

crime fearmongering is one of my favorite white angst things.

just so scared of horror movies that showed a home invasion that they must happen every where all the time. stranger danger.

I agree they don't happen all the time. Do you agree they happen too much?

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08-01-2024 , 01:09 AM

#445

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do you live or even visit one of those cities that are "becoming unlivable"?

Not anymore, which is sad.

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08-01-2024 , 01:11 AM

#446

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Originally Posted by ganstaman

Statistics can be manipulated. It's obvious we have excessive crime in Democratic run cities. Try doing some of this nonsense in a small town.

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08-01-2024 , 01:12 AM

#447

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ITT we learn that large cities have more crime than small towns. Every day's a school day.

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08-01-2024 , 01:13 AM

#448

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

And she laughs. Apparently this laugh is annoying to some people.

Ah, just the quality one wants from a leader.

LOL. I'm not even a little surprised that you see that as a bad thing.

I'm not all that patriotic. It is obvious that many liberals are jealous of true Americans. Liberals also seem to support our enemies and go against our allies like Israel.

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08-01-2024 , 01:58 AM

#449

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It is obvious that many liberals are jealous of true Americans.

"Obvious".

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08-01-2024 , 03:00 AM

#450

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Statistics can be manipulated. It's obvious we have excessive crime in Democratic run cities. Try doing some of this nonsense in a small town.

Ah, so you don't trust statistics because they can be manipulated, but instead you trust the number of videos you see of crimes because...that can't be more easily manipulated? You are outright admitting that you don't care about facts but instead trust the general feel you get from the news which is specifically curated for an agenda. You're free to be wrong and misled, but it can get in the way of the rest of us trying to live in the real world.

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