"more perfect" is a term that always annoys me. And it's that damn backwoods hick Abe Lincoln who's to blame.

It's a very uniquely annoying turn of phrase.

Boom !
1 or 0 .
Not surprised .

You have to give 110% for it.

Perjury over an affair versus allegations of a quid pro quo with hundreds of million dollars of military aid to a foreign power is comparable in your world? Well, I guess there's not much more to say then, other than LO****ingL. I guess life is easier when you put all wrongdoings at exactly the same level...then you can just dismiss anything you like as "the same as the other guy" and support whomever you like, and whatabout to your heart's content. Lozenworld is a happy place.

This another one of your goldfish?

If I didn't know you better, I would assume you meant Biden putting pressure on Ukraine to get rid of the prosecutor investigating his son's employer.

Of course the irony of the Burisma saga is that the entire establishment narrative is they got rid of the prosecutor because he wasn't investigating harshly enough. But then the story kind of ends there, and no one seems to notice that the prosecutor they brought in did nothing but give Burisma the lightest of slaps on the wrist.

Looking at the actual outcome, it would seem that the few million dollars Burisma gave Hunter to influence the case against them in their favor was money very well spent.

Another historical example, the impeachment/removal provisions in the constitution were controversial while being written. We already have elections, so why isn't that enough? Madison who wrote most of the Constitution (or at least more than any other single person) including these sections said impeachment/removal was needed because an official could betray "betray his trust to foreign powers". And that's exactly what Trump by entering into a conspiracy with a foreign power against a US citizen. If Zelensky had gone along he would have owned Trump as he could threaten to make the shakedown public at any time.

THe funny part is Republicans started clown show impeachment hearing into Biden on vague allegations that Biden used his public position for personal gain from foreign powers....but wait apparently that's not an impeachable offense anyway! So I wonder what they're thinking.

No, mostly a brick wall, sadly, and increasingly so over the last ~year. And yet here I am, banging my head.

Imagine living in a world where:

a. A Ukranian company is being investigated for corruption
b. That company hires the son of the Vice President of the US to peddle influence, paying him millions
c. Subsequently, the US govt pressures Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating the company for corruption
d. The Vice President does interviews bragging he was responsible
d. Under new prosecution the investigation yields nothing, and the company gets off scott free

--And the official narrative is there is there is nothing to see. Move along, these aren't the droids you are looking for.

Yeah the deterioration of conservative thought over the last few years has been staggering. Nothing our resident gold fish and brick walls is from their own ideas.

Three independent sources of letter b please

I didn’t read that post and it’s all kinds of dumb, unsurprising given it’s from a poster who I don’t even know but somehow have on ignore. But Biden simply publicly stated US policy at the time and that’s why nobody mentioned it until Biden started running for president. If Biden had d e the exact opposite, abruptly changed US policy as Trump did in the Zelensky call, that would be worth investigating for a possible Trump like shakedown deal.

And of course the Trump administration did investigate it and found nothing. Albeit through unofficial channels like Rudy G because the evidence was to weak and Trump was compromised by the Zelensky call. That’s another reason how you can know conservatives are fos when they talk about Biden or Clinton “crimes”. Nobody ever says how Trump screwed it all up by making these serious crimes all political by getting so involved. There is nothing in them beyond politics. You can contrast that to Dems in 2020 and Biden now as they were and are pretty sure Trump committed real crimes that go beyond what may benefit the party politically.

1 and 0 !
Binary “Maga” lozen .

How about the 2billion Kuschner got from the saudis?

You lying sack of fascist ****

Biden could be guilty of Ukraine and it would be a small fraction of the corruption the trumps facilitated

Yup and Biden held more back till the Ukraine fired a prosecutor. There both their both extortion but when Biden does it ok

Let me be clear Trump is corrupt and Biden is a selfish SOB by not stepping down after 4 years no one wants him

or a, or c, or d

Was Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin prosecuting Burisma?
CLAIM
Trump said that the Ukrainian prosecutor Joe Biden had pushed to oust, Viktor Shokin, was "prosecuting" the company where Hunter Biden sat on the board, Burisma.

CONCLUSION
Shokin was not prosecuting Burisma.

EVIDENCE
While there had been an investigation of the company, Shokin's former deputy, Vitaliy Kasko, has said that it was dormant at the time of Joe Biden's intervention. (The former US ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, and the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, George Kent, testified in Trump's impeachment inquiry that Shokin was corrupt; the US and its allies had made a coordinated effort to oust him.)

https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/polit...0-2c154688af43


Let me guess.... fake news???

no one wants him?

Biden won 81,283,098 votes, or 51.3 percent of the votes cast. He is the first U.S. presidential candidate to have won more than 80 million votes. Trump won 74,222,958 votes, or 46.8 percent of the votes cast. That’s more votes than any other presidential candidate has ever won, with the exception of Biden. (Third-party candidates picked up 1.8 percent of the votes cast.)

The only conservative policy, it seems, is to be as batshit crazy as possible.

Then never complain about corruption ever again. Both of them should have been impeached and thrown out of office.

That was 2020 not 2024 . 70% of people want another choice besides Biden and Trump

those stats are dumb.

It wasn’t Biden’s decision. And it was done completely out in the open. Why didn’t the clown brigade even bring it up until Trump’s secret corruption became public?