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10-10-2021 , 04:27 AM
You are not the only one to report such an occurrence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAIeDREQu3c
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10-10-2021 , 07:53 AM
Haha, there you go. Case closed. Lock thread.
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10-16-2021 , 07:59 PM
Do you think when Elvis is back he's gonna go on tour once this Covid thing is over?
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10-20-2021 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cristinaragland56
Does anyone with any intelligence really think that interplanetary travel is so farfetched?
I guess you mean interstellar travel? The only way for that I'm aware of that doesn't rely on unproven theories or doesn't need ridiculous amounts of energy is generation ships. Of course there is a lot still to learn about how the world works, but there is no guarantee that the laws of nature provide something for us that enables easy interstellar travel.
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10-20-2021 , 10:12 AM
I think ruling it out is probably a mistake (based on what, a data set of one planet?), but by all accounts it doesn't look like there's much evidence that they are actually travelling from space. At least that's how Elizondo is playing it.

So more likely to be a transdimensional glitch imo. Or mind mannifestation. Or acid.
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11-02-2021 , 12:12 PM
All quiet on the UFO front?
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11-02-2021 , 02:40 PM
Suspiciously quiet.
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11-10-2021 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
I guess you mean interstellar travel? The only way for that I'm aware of that doesn't rely on unproven theories or doesn't need ridiculous amounts of energy is generation ships. Of course there is a lot still to learn about how the world works, but there is no guarantee that the laws of nature provide something for us that enables easy interstellar travel.
Something like Von Neumann probes seems far easier with not much energy needed at all.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self...ing_spacecraft

Voyager left the solar system and while that’s a far cry from visiting other stars, it was built with 60s and 70s technology.

If humans lived thousands of years I think we would be seriously trying to develop probes that could basically go into sleep mode in interstellar space and switch back on when they get close to another star and send back data. We can basically do that np, it’s just that nobody wants to start a mission that takes thousands of years.
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11-10-2021 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
All quiet on the UFO front?
The question is not whether it's quiet, it's whether this quiet is different to quiets of the past.
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11-30-2021 , 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Something like Von Neumann probes seems far easier with not much energy needed at all.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self...ing_spacecraft
While I agree that this concept works in principle, to make it work in practice from an engineering point of view is probably very hard, even for a more advanced civilization. Actually, I think it's basically equivalent to creating a new live form. If you know someone in semiconductor manufacturing ask them what they think about shooting a semiconductor fab to the moon that produces microchips autonomously, because that would be one sub-task of a Von Neuman Probe. Leaving the part with the mining for the base materials aside, that could be done with today's technology, no problem. But in practice...

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte
Voyager left the solar system and while that’s a far cry from visiting other stars, it was built with 60s and 70s technology.

If humans lived thousands of years I think we would be seriously trying to develop probes that could basically go into sleep mode in interstellar space and switch back on when they get close to another star and send back data. We can basically do that np, it’s just that nobody wants to start a mission that takes thousands of years.
Agreed, but wasn't the original problem to actually bring people along?
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11-30-2021 , 09:31 AM
The answer is out there.
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11-30-2021 , 09:36 AM
I've just started reading the Bobiverse Series and it has really drawn me in.



I won't spoil the books for anyone other than to say it deals with an advanced sentient AI, self replicating technology (advanced 3D printers at the heart) that explores the Universe. I would call it a melding of 2001 A Space Odyssey and Star Trek.

I highly recommend it if science fiction is your thing.
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11-30-2021 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
While I agree that this concept works in principle, to make it work in practice from an engineering point of view is probably very hard, even for a more advanced civilization. Actually, I think it's basically equivalent to creating a new live form. If you know someone in semiconductor manufacturing ask them what they think about shooting a semiconductor fab to the moon that produces microchips autonomously, because that would be one sub-task of a Von Neuman Probe. Leaving the part with the mining for the base materials aside, that could be done with today's technology, no problem. But in practice...



Agreed, but wasn't the original problem to actually bring people along?
I was just saying massive energy or generation ships are not the only options within known physics. The technological issues are of course massive. But the best argument for why intelligent life is not dirt common is the fact they we haven’t observed any obvious alien technology imo. That we haven’t observed actual aliens is less surprising.
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12-01-2021 , 07:56 AM
Great video using maths and Bayesian inference to predict the age of other possible civilisations in our galaxy:

https://youtu.be/LrrNu_m_9K4
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05-06-2022 , 06:50 PM
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05-12-2022 , 04:26 PM
Congressional hearings next week. Probaly more obfuscation but looking more and more likely they just don't a clue
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05-13-2022 , 06:54 AM
Hey Ceres mate, congrats on your coaching role.
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05-17-2022 , 09:43 AM
Big hearing today!
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05-17-2022 , 11:50 AM
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05-18-2022 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by doodiewiz
Great video using maths and Bayesian inference to predict the age of other possible civilisations in our galaxy:

https://youtu.be/LrrNu_m_9K4
This is really good... Skip to 24:00 for a visualized simulation of the main result, which is that at any given point in time there are more civilizations around older than us than younger ones. However, older doesn't necessarily mean more advanced imo. **** sapiens exists for more than 200k years, but civilization really kicked off only 10k years ago...
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05-18-2022 , 01:58 PM
Yeah cool worlds is a pretty decent channel I watched that vid before, it's worth checking out.
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05-18-2022 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
This is really good... Skip to 24:00 for a visualized simulation of the main result, which is that at any given point in time there are more civilizations around older than us than younger ones. However, older doesn't necessarily mean more advanced imo. **** sapiens exists for more than 200k years, but civilization really kicked off only 10k years ago...
We simply have no idea what's out there. And interstellar travel necessarily involves, due to the obvious limiting factors, a time lapse beyond any biological lifetime we can conceive. And if anything from out there did get here, it wouldn't just be the larger fauna in humanoid shape, as seen in dumb Hollywood films, it would be the micro-fauna too, and we wouldn't have any immune resistance to them. It's just as well that such contact is, as far as we know, and to all intents and purposes, physically impossible.
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05-18-2022 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
We simply have no idea what's out there. And interstellar travel necessarily involves, due to the obvious limiting factors, a time lapse beyond any biological lifetime we can conceive. And if anything from out there did get here, it wouldn't just be the larger fauna in humanoid shape, as seen in dumb Hollywood films, it would be the micro-fauna too, and we wouldn't have any immune resistance to them. It's just as well that such contact is, as far as we know, and to all intents and purposes, physically impossible.
Yeah but it could also be that the other lifeform is so different on the chemical level (e.g. based on Ammonia) that it's practically inert w.r.t. to ours; just like we can't contract computer viruses and computers can't get AIDS.

However, that vid doesn't make assumptions like that anyway; it's basically pure math and sounds very compelling.
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05-18-2022 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
interstellar travel necessarily involves, due to the obvious limiting factors, a time lapse beyond any biological lifetime we can conceive.
From a practical point of view you're probably right. But theoretically, if you would be able to travel very close to the speed of light, time dilation would shorten the travel times perceived by the travelers significantly.
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