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US intelligence agencies ordered to declassify UFO intel. US intelligence agencies ordered to declassify UFO intel.

07-22-2021 , 06:10 AM
It's weird how Luckbox wanted this thread reopened and now we actually have the report this thread is empty.
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07-22-2021 , 08:54 AM
Just skimmed throught the thread, was there any actual reveal in the declassification? Or, was it just a bunch of recorded phenomenon without any further information?

I mean its quite obvious that the release is linked with the newest interrests in space such as spaceforce, starlink, bezos/musk battle and the corresponding laws and regulations that will emerge in the near future.

The real conspiracy here is: Why is there not a single "Boobs on the Moon" meme to be found?
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07-22-2021 , 09:38 AM
As I summarised above:
Weird stuff has been recorded
At least one was a balloon, probably some others were sensor glitches or misperception of operatives
Can't conclusively rule out China or Russia
We should keep collecting data

Nothing interesting or surprising.
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07-22-2021 , 09:51 AM
lol... sorry I missed that.
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07-22-2021 , 09:54 AM
The important thing is that Luckbox avoided any type of analysis that could be shown wrong by such a report. Something happened, just like he said.
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07-22-2021 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
The important thing is that Luckbox avoided any type of analysis that could be shown wrong by such a report. Something happened, just like he said.
Well, he is not wrong.

Space Force started 1.5 years ago.
Amazon and SpaceX are battling for sattelite dominion.

Space is a hot topic currently and Im pretty sure it is not as regulated/mandated as some would like it to be. So, it makes sense to give the topic more popularity in order to change laws & regulations surrounding space.
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07-22-2021 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
The important thing is that Luckbox avoided any type of analysis that could be shown wrong by such a report. Something happened, just like he said.
I'm still here. I've been busing trying to learn open-faced chinese deuce pineapple.

I've probably made like 4 posts in this forum since this thread was reopened.

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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
It's weird how Luckbox wanted this thread reopened and now we actually have the report this thread is empty.
Or I suppose this is the post I'm supposed to be quoting there. But it's not too weird.

Last edited by Luckbox Inc; 07-22-2021 at 11:30 AM.
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07-22-2021 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni

The real conspiracy here is: Why is there not a single "Boobs on the Moon" meme to be found?
They got taken out by the Cheese guys ages ago and have just been bouncing around aimlessly since then.
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07-22-2021 , 12:02 PM
Link to the actual report

Since I'm being harassed I'll actually have to read it. It's short.
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07-22-2021 , 12:26 PM
I wouldn't worry about it, it's not like you put forward any view that could've been established by anything in the document.
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07-22-2021 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Link to the actual report

Since I'm being harassed I'll actually have to read it. It's short.
It doesn't say much. Cliff notes is: "There are likely to be different explanations for different UAPs. More study is required."

It was interesting how many incidents were detected by multiple sensors.
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07-22-2021 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
I wouldn't worry about it, it's not like you put forward any view that could've been established by anything in the document.
Why does that bother you?

Was that a requirement of me?
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07-22-2021 , 01:06 PM
The important thing is that LB was definitely right all along.
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07-22-2021 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
The important thing is that LB was definitely right all along.
No. I was right about the things that I was right about, but I'd say that the attention given to the report once it was actually released was less than my expectations.

Everything in this thread is there for us to see. If you want to say that I was wrong somehow in some sort of backhanded way you can now just find and quote the posts.
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07-22-2021 , 01:39 PM
You did not commit to anything specific, as is generally your way, so what specifically do you think you were right about? Yeah, a report was released - not a huge revelation on that. The report was a nothingburger in terms of reaction (which I predicted specifically). The coverage before the report was a lot of puff piece chuckle fest interviews with actual scientists in the various fields or cringefests with nutjobs pitching stuff out there to try to monetize themselves. Basically a routine news cycle of a quirky story.

You can say you were right about what you were right about, but since you never predict anything specific - in the end you can't really say more than the vague "I was right about what I was right about," without that meaning much of anything. You know I asked you for specific predictions just as I have many times. You make it clear you don't do that.
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07-22-2021 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
The report is due out in June so like 15 more days. (Except Rubio also said it could be late).
And they are hyping it big time still but I'm still only at 30% that it's any sort of actual anything. It's all fake anyways remember so whatever the revelation is also has to be to fake.
Searching for things I did say myself (which I know what I said). Later, after they continued hyping it I bumped it to 70%, then right around the time the thread was locked they started downplaying expectations some and I would have lowered it just slightly-- to around 50/50 maybe.

Certainly if I was "wrong" here I wasn't wrong by much though. Them saying that there are real physics objects detected with "multiple sensors", but that they have no clue what they are is just about right and completely in-line with expectations.
The part I got wrong was how significant of a news event the release of the report would be.
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07-22-2021 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I don't think there is truth behind this. That's something that I've made clear so on that you're just mistaken. Otherwise what you're saying is accurate: that I think what we're seeing is propaganda for purposes that are difficult to ascertain given our position on the outside looking in.
I have also argued that the media is approaching UFOs differently in the past, to which you've argued against me with what amounts to a series of whataboutisms about prior UFO propaganda.
But the fundamental difference in our views is that you think nothing [different] is happening and I think something [different] is happening. I do get that that's a vague argument although I also feel like you're not really giving much in your continued insistence that I state things in some formulaic fashion. Idk. I'm content to just keep posting evidence [e.g. stuff from media] and wait to see what the report brings.
Given the hype I might up my percentages of it being something a bit more up to 65/35 from 70/30.
Another post.

And maybe this all is still just "same ole same ole wagging the UFO"-- which was basically the argument from Bladesman and CV.

But I still do think there is some intention behind it. If UFO stuff just disappears from the news completely now for a while then I can be shown to be wrong there.
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07-22-2021 , 02:06 PM
Well i have no dog in this fight and came to this discussion genuinely curious and open minded and knowing gov't will use misinformation campaigns.

I would not characterize Lucky's posting here as going full Kraken but it seemed awful close. the illusions to something big being dropped while pointing at 'evidence' labeled as definitive that was no such thing.

I think history will regard the pre report talk and the report itself as basically a nothing burger any more or less important that prior talk and disclosures.

The singular important take away being the gov't no longer denying this entire area and basically saying 'ya, we see stuff too that we cannot identify', in an attempt to to diffuse the legit CT's about them hiding their opinions and knowledge in this area.

I certainly think Lucky should acknowledge that CV was far more accurate then he was, if he wants to be fair here.
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07-22-2021 , 03:27 PM
Nah CV's posts weren't that great here.

All CV did was find news articles talking about UFOs from prior years in an attempt to debunk my argument that this is something new, but the articles that he cited were of a rather different nature than than the sorts of high-level-official-Washington stuff that we were seeing.
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07-22-2021 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Link to the actual report

Since I'm being harassed I'll actually have to read it. It's short.
I'm missing Hollow Earth as a possible explanation!
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07-22-2021 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Nah CV's posts weren't that great here.

All CV did was find news articles talking about UFOs from prior years in an attempt to debunk my argument that this is something new, but the articles that he cited were of a rather different nature than than the sorts of high-level-official-Washington stuff that we were seeing.
I doubt any one else who followed the discussions would agree with your view.

I would bet my personal money 100% would say you were wrong on that and what CV posted was pretty near a mirror of what you were citing going on this time.

I was trying to find the 'new' in what you were posting and it just was not there.
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07-22-2021 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni
Well, he is not wrong.

Space Force started 1.5 years ago.
Amazon and SpaceX are battling for sattelite dominion.

Space is a hot topic currently and Im pretty sure it is not as regulated/mandated as some would like it to be. So, it makes sense to give the topic more popularity in order to change laws & regulations surrounding space.
If you mean currently as since Sputnik okay. But if you mean specifically in the last few years I don't really see it. The biggest space story of my lifetime is still probably dark energy and most people have only vaguely heard of it.
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07-22-2021 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Nah CV's posts weren't that great here.

All CV did was find news articles talking about UFOs from prior years in an attempt to debunk my argument that this is something new, but the articles that he cited were of a rather different nature than than the sorts of high-level-official-Washington stuff that we were seeing
No. Really. They weren't. I'd normally ask you to elaborate on how they are but won't bother as it'll be the same garbled convoluted non response that always comes from you.
I along with several other posters accurately predicted the report wouldn't ultimately amount to anything significant or be any different than any previous report.
Something different didn't happen as Something Different This Time isn't happening and in another five years or decade or 15 years it'll be flavour of the month again briefly. That's it.
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07-22-2021 , 06:01 PM
The report was a big old nothing burger. There are mentions of sightings being recorded on multiple sensors. Difficult to say whether those were the sightings that were solved or in that category of something interesting. I think the David Fravor tic-tac encounter is possibly a sighting with multiple sensors and of course multiple witnesses. In the tic-tac encounter you had the radar guy and masters at arms of the nearby ship both publicly commenting that they saw the UFO on radar and multiple sensors. They say it traveled maybe 40-60kms in under a second to Fravor’s relay point. Ultimately unless we are given actual evidence that scientists can study instead of the accounts of military talking heads it’s impossible to say anything much imo.
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07-22-2021 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I doubt any one else who followed the discussions would agree with your view.

I would bet my personal money 100% would say you were wrong on that and what CV posted was pretty near a mirror of what you were citing going on this time
i think luckbox has been correct and very reasonable in this thread in the face of constant projection, strawmanning, and willful ignorance from pretty much every other poster.

same thing with the other luckbox thread, even if i dont agree with everything he says

lol at anyone thinking the release of the report being a "dud" is some big gotcha. who cares if it doesnt have some big reveal or press coverage, they already had a big full court blitz on 60 minutes with marco rubio et al saying we need to take this very seriously (red/yellow menace)
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