Like most people who are conspiracy theorists like me know of the bluebeam idea. I've known about it for a long time.
That does not mean I have researched his writings.

Not a good look for you actually.

CV,
If the secret organization that he thinks runs things is masonic, would that make him an anti-semite?
Yes or no?
Not trying to play word games I'm just genuinely curious wtf you keep badgering me over an author I've never read who writes in a language I can barely understand whose ideas I only know about in the roughest of ways.

Yeah the old that's-what-you-are-but-what-am-I schtick again I getcha
Nor do I buy your excuse tbh re the source as nobody could be this obtuse.

And re your other post, no- UFOS have been a part of pop culture for decades and reported for over a century and the topic has been part of the mainstream for decades in the media and entertainment so they're already in people's worldview and have been for decades, the end.

What is my my 'excuse'? You think my French is better than it is. Est tres mal. Est un langue difícil.

I don;t believe for a second you missed the English wiki page that's just stupid

I did not miss the Wikipedia page. I did not claim that I did.
The simple fact of the matter is that his secret organization that he claims runs things is nominally Christian.

So decades ago when the aforementioned, by me, Rotten Tomatoes chat forums ( a movie chat site that spun out numerous other Forums and became one of, if not the largest such chat sight of that era), started to see the first influx of CTers from the webs nether regions they allowed them to participate in chats.

There was much more acceptance of letting any discussion flow where it would naturally go, tangential or even a diversion of the OP or not. If that was what people NOW wanted to talk about, let it go.


It became clear relatively quickly that CTers were a unique bunch. Pretty near oblivious to countering information no matter how founded and no matter how smart or respected the poster was countering them. After all some of the stuff being asserted was simply ridiculous so it enticed smart people to quickly address them.


And yet the CTers endured. Often repeating again and again the same, already countered narrative as if never countered. Often waving their hands and simply stating "none of that countered what I put up' when clearly it did and very definitively.

Eventually it became clear that CTers were not coming in looking for debate. They had already made up their mind having seen all that countering evidence and what they needed was places to REPEAT their mass walls of information (misinformation) to reach more people who would not read all of the tomes and just take sides and get drawn in to their more fanciful and exciting narratives than accepting the more benign and boring one.

They needed to escape their echo chambers in the deep web as echo chambers do not really grow.

It is a tactic used by the Trump Team in using the MSM and Social Media, to indoctrinate others with lies. They know there is a counter narrative and they know it is compelling. But they wave it away saying 'nothing disputes what I said' and continue to just hammer the lies and hope the volume forces people to take sides.

Eventually Rotten Tomatoes took a hard turn against all such CTers because, while at first they liked that they drove discussion volume they realized it frustrated regulars who wanted to discuss other things.

And i am not suggesting Lucky should be driven if that is what it looks like here. As Monty has pointed out this is the ok type thread to allow him to go full CT and use those tactics.

But it is my conclusion (and he can disagree) that he has gone full CTers here and using that exact tactic whether he realizes it or not. He cannot allow one inch of room that anything CV posted is an actual counter, thus NOTHING, has been posted to do that. And he cannot allow one inch of room that any of us who agree with CV's analysis over all as compared to Lucky's is being genuine.

So that then lets him 'cut', 'paste', 'repeat' these arguments as never properly addressed or refuted.

Cuepee,
We're in a UFO thread.

2021 Is Shaping Up To Be The Year Of The UFO.
This is from Forbes.
Can someone tell me how nothing is happening and why Forbes would put out an article titled this way when nothing is happening?
I can teach people here how to look at propaganda in mainstream print journalism.
Step 1: The headlines are what you are being asked to think.
Step 2: Nothing else matters beyond the headlines.

Why would anyone? All of your discussions end up being some shadowy psy op that you cannot define, prove or explain.


Only you think you are onto anything, which again is a general theme in your ideas. Nobody is threatened by that, as much as you want that to be the case or try to force that to be the case. When people ask you for specifics it is not out of a fear - it is to see if you can provide any specifics to your concerns. You never do that, which is why as you say - nobody here gives you much credence. Why should anyone?

If you "know" something then prove it. That should not be hard to do, yet you never do it. You believe in stuff, and you want things to be a mystical psy op that requires you to decode, but that is not "knowing" anything in a conventional sense.

You are not a conventional conspiracyderp dummy like the flat earther who was banned or that Qderp who vanished, but you are trapped by your own paranoid beliefs in all this weird psy op nonsense. UFOs have nothing to do with that.

The most eloquent staking app I ever got was a near 10,000 word application from a person who went into great detail about how staking and coaching groups must work with the sites and the sites do things to benefit their players and how it is all a big network of things and he now wanted to be part of that.

It was bat $%^& crazy, but some of the most intelligent writing I have seen, so we did work with him for a while, and his paranoid delusions were always an enemy of his, one that he just could not shake in the end. Even after he saw we were not part of some immense psy op to control the industry it did not matter, he needed to believe what he needed to believe.

Definitely not a dummy, but one could not take what he said, even though he was intelligent, with any seriousness, and that was likely due to a genuine mental condition.

This forum is hardly "everyone" so what you should do next is take your UFO psy op theory and present it on a bunch of different forums and see what kind of reception it gets. Bring that exciting new Forbes link with you. Gee, wonder how that would go if you ever did it (and obviously you never will).

All the best.

Monte,
Am I expected to know the future? You know that I cannot.

Tomorrow being today when this airs.
"They still aren't saying they are real"
They definitely aren't hyping this report due out in any way.
60 Minutes just happened to catch a nice interview with this former Navy pilot at just the right time.

Nah, that weird deflecting thing will not work.

You want to see if your conspiracyderp psy op stuff has any traction with others (as you say - it has none here) then do as I suggest and take it to other forums and see what kind of response it gets there. If all you will do is contain your preaching to this forum, then you saying "everyone on this forum dismisses me" is kind of the only sample size you will ever encounter, so if you want to see if you get different results elsewhere - go do it. If you do not - then at this point 100% of all other posters disagree with you, so you can continue to believe you are the only one correct as you see fit.

All the best.

Hey Lucky, how many more days do we have to wait until the big revelation you predicted comes in?

The report is due out in June so like 15 more days. (Except Rubio also said it could be late).
And they are hyping it big time still but I'm still only at 30% that it's any sort of actual anything. It's all fake anyways remember so whatever the revelation is also has to be to fake.

https://youtu.be/aIBPegtaa3I
There is no actual increased attention. They are just hyping the 60 Minutes piece.

I think the role of psy ops with UFO's is convincing countries/ citizens our spy technology is from another country/ planet.

So you're walking it back from dead sure it would be out by June to maybe mid-June or later but also 30% it won't be anything. Great stuff.

I'm not walking anything back.
When did I ever say I was dead sure it would be out in June? Do you think I work for the the Pentagon?

Yes, "something big is gonna happen in May" was the closest to an actual definite statement you made in the entire thread after dozens of vague ramblings. Naturally, you're walking it way back just like you'll walk it back in mid-June when nothing comes out.

Ummm.....can you quote that?
Like quote my actual posts that say that? Otherwise I'm going to forced to conclude that you're lying again.
Did you forget that on an Internet forum there is a record of what people post?
I've said the report is due out in June and that I expect it to be a dud. I've said that consistently.
'Due out' does not mean definitely coming out and 'dud' does not mean 'something big'. Also May is not June.

You think I'm trying to walk back the government saying a report is due out like I'm just making the whole thing up

Something like this in relationship to US technology is definitely possible.

i wasn't suggesting otherwise.

Like Monty, I agree that if a CTer cannot be allowed to run in a UFO discussion thread, perhaps the UFO thread should just be deleted from the onset.

I think it is a fine containment thread (not meant in a derisive way) to let the person expound and challenged, and in this case, thoroughly debunked.

Lol if you think I've been debunked here. Everything I've said is obviously true that this is all being hyped.
****ing 60 Minutes with fighter pilots airing tonight, I'm saying they're pushing propaganda and you're arguing I'm debunked. Lolol
Do you even know what I've said in this thread?
Like I'm saying there is a bunch of UFO propaganda and that the discourse on it is changing, Forbes has an article out calling 2021 'the year of UFOs' and you're like "nah you've been debunked". Lol.