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Old Yesterday, 03:28 PM   #451
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Re: US intelligence agencies ordered to declassify UFO intel.

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So I don't think that anything I've said as been shown to be wrong. I think whatever claims you guys think you've made to disprove me have been as a result of misunderstandings.
Where we might still disagree is on whether this is all "nothing new"

I can handle people disagreeing with me. But I really did feel like the CNN video would put to bed any claims that this was nothing new and I was a bit flabbergasted to see that that was completely dismissed.

No that's more or less what I think


I'm not arguing otherwise

They have to because a law was passed that they do so. But that doesn't mean this hasn't been hyped up preceding it.
Okay. So the Pentagon are putting out fake ufo vids deliberately.Have they created these fakes? Do MSM know? Why do you think they're doing this? For what purpose? And what evidence do you have to back this up?

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Old Yesterday, 03:34 PM   #452
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Re: US intelligence agencies ordered to declassify UFO intel.

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UFO sightings, particularly in the late Forties and early Fifties, seem to have been a mass-hysterical phenomenon prompted by ordinary and banal events, and the CIA and other government agencies were quite annoyed because people might think that the Soviets had super-planes invulnerable to US interception, which as far as we know was not the case.

https://fas.org/sgp/library/ciaufo.html
Yes. This probably played a part in creating the Robertson panel in the early 50s which recommended debunking the phenomenon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_Panel
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Whilst concluding there was nothing of scientific value in UFO reports and that there was no evidence of a direct threat to national security, the panel noted:

"The Panel Members were in agreement with O/SI opinion that, although evidence of any direct threat from these sightings was wholly lacking, related dangers might well exist resulting from:
a. Misidentification of actual enemy artifacts by defense personnel.
b. Overloading of emergency reporting channels with "false" information ("noise to signal ratio" analogy—Berkner).
c. Subjectivity of public to mass hysteria and greater vulnerability to possible enemy psychological warfare. " [2]

In addition to a range of suggestions regarding improved techniques and resources for Blue Book the Panel concluded that a public education campaign should be undertaken to, on the one hand, improve training for relevant personnel in identification of various aerial phenomena and:
"(t)he "debunking" aim would result in reduction in public interest in "flying saucers" which today evokes a strong psychological reaction. This education could be accomplished by mass media such as television, motion pictures, and popular articles. Basis of such education would be actual case histories which had been puzzling at first but later explained. As in the case of conjuring tricks, there is much less stimulation if the "secret" is known. Such a program should tend to reduce the current gullibility of the public and consequently their susceptibility to clever hostile propaganda. The Panel noted that the general absence of Russian propaganda based on a subject with so many obvious possibilities for exploitation might indicate a possible Russian official policy. ... The Panel took cognizance of the existence of such groups as the "Civilian Flying Saucer Investigators" (Los Angeles) and the "Aerial Phenomena Research Organization (Wisconsin). It was believed that such organizations should be watched because of their potentially great influence on mass thinking if widespread sightings should occur. The apparent irresponsibility and the possible use of such groups for subversive purposes should be kept in mind."
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Old Yesterday, 05:52 PM   #453
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Re: US intelligence agencies ordered to declassify UFO intel.

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Btw JJJ, some new (dis)information has come out in the Portland story if you were ever interested in continuing that discussion: link.
LB, it is good to see you are still fighting for your cause even after being stalked by that condescending slug from the internet poker threads. I believe our discussions have reached an impasse when we donít agree who remains alive or dead in Portland or the Epstein matter. If they turn up alive down the road I will appear for your victory party for my serving of crow.
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Old Yesterday, 05:59 PM   #454
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Re: US intelligence agencies ordered to declassify UFO intel.

I assume I am the stalker you are suggesting which is odd since you are one of the people who did that to me in the riggie thread for a while, but if you are afraid to commit to that - I totally understand.

Lucky has lost his touch - he was always at his best when working with easy opponents like you, so I completely understand why he is genuinely happy to see you back. He does not fare as well vs people who can put some tricky points to him, and especially those who have a lot more genuine experience in whatever derp thing he tries to weave into his little manifesto, in this case UFOs.

Was always fun watching him smack you around, so hopefully you will do that role more in future . Welcome back!

All the best.
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Old Yesterday, 06:16 PM   #455
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Trumpderp money....Lizard people......bonus whoring....we have heard it all before. You are a broken record. Just slither back to your riggie world.
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Old Yesterday, 06:25 PM   #456
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Re: US intelligence agencies ordered to declassify UFO intel.

That thread is dead. Even weird void stalkers like you never show up any more, and in the end Trumpderps paid the bills way more than online poker riggies - so as they say - follow the money! That is the one thing all the points you make about me have in common, except Lizard People - which I am still upset the thread about them got locked here, but unpaid mods (that should be paid) have the right to do whatever they want in these dusty forums.

Anyway, welcome back - Lucky will literally love having you as a foil again, so do your job appropriately as that was actually entertaining. He has not done as well in this thread, so it is needed.

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Old Yesterday, 07:06 PM   #457
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All that trumpderp money and still no one wants to engage with you. I don’t know why lamenting LBs interactions with you is being interpreted as a desire to hear more of your verbal diarrhea. #sad

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Old Yesterday, 07:38 PM   #458
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Shrug, I will just have to find a way to just live with all the Trumpderp money and Lucky not responding to all my posts (which I have told him is his best play). Guess that is a dilemma you will not have to endure . You definitely put me in my place as well as you can, which again explains why Lucky is literally thrilled to see you back. He will always respond to your posts to him. Maybe you should do the math on that eventually...

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Old Today, 09:09 AM   #459
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Re: US intelligence agencies ordered to declassify UFO intel.

I am still astounded by the degree of the cognitive dissonance one must accept to say this...

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* What we're seeing right now with UFOs is part of a coordinated effort to push UFOs to the masses.

* This coordinated effort is different than past efforts to push UFOs on the masses

* What makes it different is because they are releasing videos that purport to show UFOs and because the government is saying those videos are authentic
which is based on his (wrong) opinion that prior gov'ts have not done this and when confronted with all sorts of examples throughout history proving, they have in fact 'done that', to then follow that up with...

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* That UFOs have been discussed by government in the past does not matter.
Within the same post!

It makes one wonder if the types of people drawn to CT's actually believe what they need to accept to perpetuate it or if they are just trying to convince themselves they do.
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