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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
It sounds like you're more versed in UFO stuff than I am-- as all the attitudes around Project Bluebook and what was said and who was saying it, I do not know.
Although if you want to make the argument that this has been a long con then that would be one I'd be receptive towards. But without knowing the ins and outs of the points your making regarding the history here, I'm pretty skeptical that the positions being taken now are too similar to what they have been historically and would want to see some citations there.
I do understand your attitude here though even without that, but still fail to see how people can't see that we're in unprecedented territory here. There has never been a time in any of our lives where this topic has received the sort of attention from high places that it is receiving now. The "wake me up when something actually happens" is still an ok attitude to have, but my interest is less on UFOs and more about government/media propaganda.
Also, we shouldn't focus on any one individual. This isn't Marco Rubio doing all of this by himself. There are lots of players involved and you can't just treat Rubio's comments in a vacuum.
I went through a conspiracy phase in my teens, and I've argued with conspiracy theorists a bit in the past, so I'm not well versed by any means but I've read my share. This is all stuff I remember from way back, expect errors on my part.
Still, I don't know how far down the pipeline you are but give Project Bluebook a quick google, skim the wiki. It's one of those things that's interesting even if you buy into none of it. It was the first project in the US to specifically identify UFOs. It came under a lot of scrutiny, and over time bits and pieces became publicly available (with some redactions as to specifics).
The thing about it was that it came under intense scrutiny. There were panels of scientists built to discuss it and it set the benchmark for policy on investigation and managing the public. If I remember rightly, they decided to keep quiet because even the mention of "We saw a thing and we don't know what it was" caused significant public stir. But the thing about it is this, it came under a lot of scrutiny from all angles: whether it was biased, whether it was open, whether it was a cover-up of a cover-up etc. All the things you're saying are "different" this time have been said before.
Also, of all the documents released over a significant timeframe, none of them contained anything that interesting. Plenty of stuff for people to read into, plenty to speculate, but nothing to actually confirm anything exciting. The only saving grace was that the project "failed" in one sense; it failed to explain all of the phenomena investigated. That's what people have been clinging on to since then, that's there's still some unexplained stuff and one of those might just be the one. No reason to think any of them are, but just maybe.
I know what it's like to get hooked on these things. Unsolved mysteries are fascinating. I've been on the brink of some pretty wild theories. That's why I'm not getting condescending or insulting. The reason I fell away from the world of conspiracy theories is that either you have to buy into some crazy premise and fall into a whole mess of bizarre beliefs, or you get constantly blue-balled while waiting for the reveal that never comes.
On the plus side, there's no end of genuine shady s*** that governments around the world have actually been into. From MK Ultra and COINTELPRO in the States to Japan denying Unit 731. And governments today are definitely up to things we don't think they should be up to. I'll still bet my savings against anything good happening on the UFO front any time soon.