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Originally Posted by microbet
Those things aren't being for open borders. Abolishing jus soli is downright despicable. And yes, every country that doesn't have it is being despicable.
taxes and welfare?
Here's what the libertarians say about immigration: https://www.cato.org/white-paper/fis...cutive-summary
The fiscal impact is positive.
Club membership? Lol. Like almost every US citizen, I just got mine by being born here.
Biden is not for open borders of course. And idiot Republicans just think he is because he hasn't savored the idea of toddlers dying in the razor wire. Biden admin has arrested migrants in record numbers. Trump loving ghouls just want their blood lust satisfied and to fight with their enemies. None of it affects the numbers significantly. It's all theater and identity politics.
fiscal impact of immigration in aggregate being positive doesn't mean those people trespassing the border are, because they aren't a random sample of immigrants, rather self selected to be way way worse than the median immigrant in terms of potential income.
the people contributing a lot on net come by plane with visas, have grad degrees/PhDs (or pursue them in the USA) and so on, and you know that.
we are way behind the time when "2 arms and 2 legs and a decent working attitude" were sufficient to be a net fiscal contributor.
which is ok, just take account of that, let them in, and don't give access to services paid for by other people taxes, until/unless they pay their share.
seasonal agricultural workers from Mexico existed since time immemorial, but they didn't get subsidized healthcare a while ago.
as for ius soli, why would you keep a mechanism for club membership that doesn't filter for quality? you co own something with someone else, why are you diluting your share unless you gain by doing so? if you want to do charity do it with your own resources, I don't understand why you want to use other people resources for your charity preferences