Quote:
Originally Posted by microbet
Lucium,
If you really were a libertarian your position on welfare would be that taxes are theft. The government is a thief. If someone steals from you and gives what they stole to someone else as a gift, it's not moral for you to hire someone to shoot the person who receives the gift.
But, you're an authoritarian bootlicking fascist and not a libertarian.
You seem to think the only possible libertarian position is anarchocapitalism.
I understand why you think so:
1) kids which expose those ideas (now in crypto, yesterday in poker) tend to gravitate towards that
2) american libertarianism often gravitates toward that
European libertarianism doesn't, it could also be described as classic liberalism (with modern connotations), or minarchism. It accepts there is no option without a state (power vacuum always get filled), it's a disgusting necessary evil to have a state.
The government is the mafia mob you choose to pay among many mobs for protection because you cannot not choose: if you don't the mafia mob other people pay, kills you and your family.
Inside a framework where the state has necessarily to exist (and be kept in check all the times) you take all other considerations.
If Yu want to call everyone in favour of law enforcement fascist do that but do it to every poster who is in favour of law enforcement existing, or It becomes evident you just dislike me and your arguments are simply ridiculous.
It's not fascism to want law enforcement to enforce property rights.