Yeah proper immigration takes time
what else is new? don't really understand you.

The other option costs 10-15k which you pay to dangerous criminals, the cartels in mexico
+ you can get raped
+ you can die
+ -ev
+ anything can happen
+ you can just get kicked out again
+ no insurance
+ no legal job
+ it all sucks
+ no status
+ no security
+ no nothing

Yes. A lot of the dumber conservatives try to equate Trump purposely separating children from parents to other administrations dealing with unaccompanied children arriving at the order on their own. Akin to a kidnapper complaining how he's in jail but nobody is trying to shut down orphanages.

Are you aware of why they do that?
Don't take it personal, but they want to make sure it all works out for the couple and that this is a legitimate marriage. People flock these countries, you know this. It's mostly western guys that have problems finding local women. The women that they marry, often marry out of financial reasons. That they want to prevent, becuase it often doesn't work out and leads to problem for tbe couple and the state. That's why it's taking so long I'm pretty sure. Bc these cases are a) plenty and b) often problematic. (unless you're talking about rich Asian countries like Singapore, Japan or Korea which I doubt) You said Asian, that's Thailand or Philippines I would bet and for those countries it all applies what I said)

Yeah, there's no way the most powerful economic system that's ever existed could produce houses and apartments.

Yes you are correct they are not the same but when you lose those children that come across the border by themselves they are just as lost as the 1500 Trump separated. The difference is some have the number for bien in the 10's of thousands

That administration did so many horrible things I totally forgot about them tearing up families. Holy **** that was a rough 4 years.

A lot of what you say is correct. I have no doubt that SOME of it applies to my family member...but not all of it.

HOWEVER, that still does not negate the fact that there are 2 different immigration systems set up. One for people who follow the rules (suckers), and those that don't.

My family member should have had his wife come to Mexico and just cross over the border.

You can't have two sets of rules. Eventually those that are following them won't. Then what do you have?

We already have two sets of rules. One for the rich, and one for the poor. Do you think any of the people fleeing their homeland each have access to this TREMENDOUS amount of money in order to move legally? If they're willing to go to America, they must be desperate AF.

How come Ukrainians get refugee status but Mexicans don’t

I don't know, this is a difficult one. Why would fair-skinned europeans get a different status to darker skinned americans? Really wish I could get to the bottom of this one

Actually, it might be a logistical impossibility. I have a family member who is a ACLU lawyer who does refugee stuff. He says the refugee admittance system is completely overloaded as is. You could obviously make a moral argument more Central and South American immigrants should be labelled as refugees, but logistically I am not sure it is possible without a radical overhaul of the system.

Almost all the refugees admitted into the US are "dark skinned," including every country that has more refugees than Ukraine. This is pretty bad faith.

The Ukrainians get refugee status because they are refugees. Also, who told you Mexicans can't claim refugee status?

I shoulda said asylum seekers.


On May 11, the United States' pandemic-era policy to turn away most people at the border, Title 42, expired and a new slew of rules left an unknown future for migrants hoping to head to the U.S.

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/06/11798...title42-asylum


Refugee status applications and migrant apprehensions in Mexico have risen dramatically as US President Joe Biden has continued restricting access to asylum at the US southern border, and pushed Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador to heavily regulate travel to and within Mexico in order to prevent non-Mexican migrants from reaching the US. Those who cross Mexico’s southern border fleeing violence and persecution struggle to obtain protection, face serious abuses and delays, and are often forced to wait for months in inhumane conditions near Mexico’s southern border while struggling to find work or housing.

Mexicans can apply for asylum in the US, not sure why you think they can't.

That rule maybe just changed

In April 2022, the Biden administration introduced a streamlined program for allowing an unlimited number of Ukrainian nationals who pass various checks and are sponsored by various organizations under the "Uniting for Ukraine" program to be excepted from Title 42 and get humanitarian parole and work permits.[30] In October 2022, it introduced a similar program for Venezuelan nationals, who must arrive by air. The number of Venezuelans was capped at 24,000, and those arriving by crossing into Mexico or Panama illegally would start to be expelled under Title 42



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_42_expulsion

I would like to know their stance though. biden talking about the wall and some NY rep from sanctuary saying somethign needs done,

I think its one of the areas the republicans can maybe look at and see if they can win votes off of some dems. I am eager to see bidem admin to see what theri thoughts are.

if what you say is true then thats actually gonna be huge for reds

You do realize that a lot of these people can't afford to buy a house and most landlords would require jobs already lined up, right?

America, has been voted the most desirable place to move to as an immigrant for 50+ years straight (source: the people voted with their feet).

So the immigrants will find jobs and pay rent like they always do. Not sure what the crisis other than your irrational fear of foreigners.

I was only pointing out that fixing the problem of housing for immigrants isn't as easy as saying "we should just build more houses and apartments" (like you did). Who is paying for these new homes and how are the immigrants getting in them when most don't have much money, they don't have any job history in the area or a job lined up when they step foot into the country?

Yeah, the guy who said he wants to drastically increase legal immigration has an irrational fear of foreigners - good call, pal. One of the missions of one of the charities I gave the most money to the last 2 years is to place refugees in homes, help them get jobs and help them with other basic needs.*

*full disclosure I am only giving peanuts to charities

Well, typically entrepreneurs get capital together, build homes/apartments, and then sell/rent them for profit. Not sure where the roadblock here is.

Billionaires can make a homeless immigrant fund and use the interest to pay for it.

And you can hire cheap immigrant labor to do the building! It's an incredible engine of economic activity that's powered the US for hundreds of years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVoSZYdq5sQ

In recent decades much of western Europe has received as much or more immigration from a wider variety of sources.

Internal migration in China dwarfs whatever the US receives.