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If something happened In 1929, then that's an American tradition.

Yours is a country with very little history, something happening in 1929 and lasting decades is what your country is about.

Yours isnt a nation of free immigration.

It's a nation built by selective immigration

Dude who said the boats coming to Italy are full of "garbage" is celebrating Blease's Law (1929)

about Blease

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Blease was notorious for his vituperative demeanor. He did not campaign on political promises but on the prejudices of white citizens. Blease advocated lynching (As noted by one study, “ “Sometimes after a lynching,” writes his most acute interpreter, “Blease publicly celebrated the save murder with a bizarre death dance” “).”[1] and was against education for black people.

Hey Trump fans and Republicans in general, look at the people attracted to your party and policies.

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02-05-2024 , 07:48 PM

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The people you need are the people who are going to wheel you around in your wheelchair, wipe your garbage ass, drive the senior shuttle, etc, not people with PhDs in Microbiology.

We aren't all catholics, it's ok to die sooner if life means living as a wretch on a wheelchair.

And if no one is paying for it, most people can't live the "glorious" life you describe no matter what.

And you know as a libertarian that's true. It's tens of thousands bucks per month, with 0 state healthcare how are you doing it if you are a normal person? You don't.

You die like your great great parents at 82 instead of 95, you die when you cease to be self sufficient unless extremely rich.

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The mod who eventually bans Luciom when they figure out that he's an open fascist and racist will be only helping Trump and the right-wingers. Please do not ban him.

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02-05-2024 , 07:50 PM

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If you had boat loads full of young healthy people who you invested in educating and accepted instead of marched around the streets in jack-boots threatening, you'd have people to take care of you when you are old. Instead you're going to die in your own filth if you aren't rich because the racists in Italy refused to allow people in.

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02-05-2024 , 07:50 PM

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The mod who eventually bans Luciom when they figure out that he's an open fascist and racist will be only helping Trump and the right-wingers. Please do not ban him.

Who's paying for the 86 years old , not self sufficient, with 4 comorbidities, in your dream world? You said you are a libertarian.

It's exceptionally expensive to keep those people alive.

If they don't have the cash, who's paying on your model of society?

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02-05-2024 , 07:56 PM

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It's not just the lack of people keeping them alive with expensive medical treatments that's going to **** up your country. You're not going to have people to deliver packages. To work at the grocery store. You old people are going to either have to keep working when you're 80 because there will be no young people around to do these jobs or you're going to just die or beg Germany and USA or maybe China for money or something. And you don't have to be a rich 80 year old to have stuff delivered by Amazon - but if there is no one young enough to drive a delivery truck, you're ****ed.

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02-05-2024 , 07:58 PM

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You're really going to be exceptionally ****ed. Median age 48? When the median age is even 65 or 70 - your society is going to be shitty.

Maybe you'll take solace in being a purebreed Italian lying in filth with a bunch of other purebreed Italians.

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02-05-2024 , 08:00 PM

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You're really going to be exceptionally ****ed. Median age 48? When the median age is even 65 or 70 - your society is going to be shitty.

Which part of "I am ok with filtered immigration" isn't clear to you?

And btw, we can always move, I am not married to any particular place.

As long as I live here I want things to be good for me, if they become bad for me I leave and the people who stay , i care 0 about them.

I am not a nationalist

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02-05-2024 , 08:02 PM

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Do you know they invented planes to move quickly elsewhere well before a place becomes as you describe?

In the meanwhile I will leave mass criminality for you to enjoy, I will move when you will have absorbed those people and made them civilized.

And you will accept me because money will always be accepted. That's life.

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02-05-2024 , 08:10 PM

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The mod who eventually bans Luciom when they figure out that he's an open fascist and racist will be only helping Trump and the right-wingers. Please do not ban him.

I agree.

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02-05-2024 , 08:12 PM

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The not being a nationalist thing might let you off from being a fascist, but still very openly racist.

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02-05-2024 , 08:17 PM

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The not being a nationalist thing might let you off from being a fascist, but still very openly racist.

Racist lol

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02-05-2024 , 08:22 PM

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Garbage coming from boats is never going to make the cut however

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02-05-2024 , 08:23 PM

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Dunno who that guy is

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02-05-2024 , 08:53 PM

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Garbage coming from boats is never going to make the cut however

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In the meanwhile I will leave mass criminality for you to enjoy, I will move when you will have absorbed those people and made them civilized.

I agree that post like these are not allowed. You could debate if it's racist or bigoted or whatever, but regardless, I find it disrespectful enough to give this warning.

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02-05-2024 , 09:14 PM

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Regardless illegal immigration is bad

Being picky about immigration is not necessarily bad

Asylum is a totally different issue. We do need to process asylum claims more expediently

The border problem involves drugs, cartels, etc

I do think the current proposed bill is not perfect but it's pretty gross for Johnson to not bring it to the floor

But if he does he probably loses the speakership

So he would need to make a deal with Jeffries first and then live with trumps wrath of Trump wins

Gross all around

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02-05-2024 , 09:22 PM

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The same thing should be done about illegal drugs as should be done about illegal immigration.

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02-05-2024 , 09:46 PM

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There is no crisis over illegal immigration in the US. Its just another pointless political talking point playing off peoples innate racism meant to get people feeling emotional one way or the other

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02-05-2024 , 10:06 PM

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There is no crisis over illegal immigration in the US. Its just another pointless political talking point playing off peoples innate racism meant to get people feeling emotional one way or the other

way to say the obvious truth out loud.

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02-05-2024 , 10:11 PM

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Didn't Eric Adams say recently that NYC was full?

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02-05-2024 , 10:13 PM

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Yeah democrats could have gone to West Virginia Under Trump and talked about how we need to take our country back from welfare and drug addicted conservatives.

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02-05-2024 , 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Luciom

Dunno who that guy is

Maybe it was the picture, I'll try another.

He'd very much approve of your immigration philosophy.

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02-05-2024 , 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Didn't Eric Adams say recently that NYC was full?

Eric Adams is an authoritarian. So yes, he did say things to that affect.

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02-06-2024 , 04:07 AM

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Maybe it was the picture, I'll try another.

He'd very much approve of your immigration philosophy.

Still had no idea who he was, luckily Google lens helped this time.

I don't know why you suggest I share his positions on immigration as, at a glance, it doesn't appear that guy is in favor of, for example, giving green cards automatically to anyone with a STEM degree from a reputable university anywhere in the world, which I am.

And the same for anyone with a college degree or significant work experience in healthcare settings for that matter.

Why do you claim I share a position on immigration with someone who is strongly against skilled immigration as well as unskilled?

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02-06-2024 , 04:25 AM

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I agree that post like these are not allowed. You could debate if it's racist or bigoted or whatever, but regardless, I find it disrespectful enough to give this warning.

My bad, I read much worse things written about other groups regularly not being sanctioned in this forum so I thought I was behaving within the rules

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