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03-23-2024 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
ISIS? ok so USA and Israel.
Stop. Smoking. Meth.
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03-23-2024 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Also fwiw I think even before ISIS said they did it they were the most likely to be responsible.

Ukraine or false flag are extremely unlikely.
Could possibly be the Chechens? ISIS are the trolls of terrorism. They claimed responsibility for the Las Vegas shooting iirc. I'd personally take any claim of theirs with a large barrel of salt. Not saying they aren't responsible either to clarify but they're not exactly a reliable source.
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03-23-2024 , 11:37 AM
Chechen war is long over, mate.

What are u smoking?
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03-23-2024 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Ukraine is saying they were never asked to halt attacking refineries.

It's hard to tell if the story is legit at the moment.
I really hope that never happened
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03-23-2024 , 11:46 AM
supposedly these guys were Tajiks. Putin is putting some blame on Ukraine, claiming they were fleeing to an intentional opening there. lets see if he goes all genocidal like the Zionists. Id guess not, and hope not.
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03-23-2024 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
hmm, wonder how the knew what was going to happen and then didnt give the Russians enough info to stop it. you are starting to convince me.
Not hard to think they might be able to intercept communication without necessarily having the exact location of the people planning an attack, nor enough details on who they are to identify them before the attack
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03-23-2024 , 12:02 PM
more likely they have actual assets in those groups
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03-23-2024 , 12:48 PM
Victor,

There have been like 10 ISIS, or related Islamist, mass casualty terrorist attacks in the last week throughout the world. Are the Jews behind all of them, or just this one?
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03-23-2024 , 12:50 PM
I never said Jews were behind any of them. why lie so much?
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03-23-2024 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
Victor,

There have been like 10 ISIS, or related Islamist, mass casualty terrorist attacks in the last week throughout the world. Are the Jews behind all of them, or just this one?
They're probably behind the Iranian one as Iran are vic's bff's as well, so y'know.. Jews Zionists.
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03-23-2024 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
ok so you agree that they may or may not have conveyed specifics to Russia
White House said they did …..
But you seem to be deep in conspiracy about west is bad , so keep at it
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03-23-2024 , 03:32 PM
you dont understand the word specific
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03-23-2024 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
supposedly these guys were Tajiks. Putin is putting some blame on Ukraine, claiming they were fleeing to an intentional opening there. lets see if he goes all genocidal like the Zionists. Id guess not, and hope not.
The US believed that the group intending to launch such an MFA (marauding firearms attack, as in the 2015 Bataclan attack in Paris) was ISIS-K, also known as IS Khorasan, a group so mad that it actually carries out attacks on the Taliban for not being mad enough. ISIS-K may have members in Tajikistan, and a Russian parliamentarian has claimed that Tajik passports were found in the arrested men's car. Russia is an IS target due to the Chechenya situation. Blaming the whole thing on Ukraine, as Putin has done, is just Putin being Putin.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68645755
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03-23-2024 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
hmm, wonder how the knew what was going to happen and then didnt give the Russians enough info to stop it. you are starting to convince me.
Or you might ask why the Russians, having the info ('Islamist terrorists are going to target a concert in the Moscow area'), failed to impose the necessary security. It's not like the Kremlin is short of armed security goons.
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03-23-2024 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
The US believed that the group intending to launch such an MFA (marauding firearms attack, as in the 2015 Bataclan attack in Paris) was ISIS-K, also known as IS Khorasan, a group so mad that it actually carries out attacks on the Taliban for not being mad enough. ISIS-K may have members in Tajikistan, and a Russian parliamentarian has claimed that Tajik passports were found in the arrested men's car. Russia is an IS target due to the Chechenya situation. Blaming the whole thing on Ukraine, as Putin has done, is just Putin being Putin.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68645755
I thought it was a potential ISIS target also because of the long standing alliance with Iran, and because if what Russia did in Syria
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03-23-2024 , 04:17 PM
Nasty vid circulating on x-twitter showing what appear to be Russian security forces cutting off a crocus attack suspect's ear and forcing him to eat it.
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03-23-2024 , 04:31 PM
nasty vid of those guys straight up executing people, including a large group cowering in a corner.

apparently they all have the same story that they were recruited on Telegram by unknown people who paid them a couple grand and provided he weaponry.
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03-23-2024 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
nasty vid of those guys straight up executing people, including a large group cowering in a corner.
Which justifies cutting a suspect's ear off and forcing him to eat it? By that rationale, any IDF action including atrocities is justified, no?

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apparently they all have the same story that they were recruited on Telegram by unknown people who paid them a couple grand and provided he weaponry.
Maybe the others wanted to keep their ears? Nothing they say under torture is reliable. I can only imagine your response if it was a vid of Ukrainian soldiers doing this to Russian pows.
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03-23-2024 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Which justifies cutting a suspect's ear off and forcing him to eat it? By that rationale, any IDF action including atrocities is justified, no?


Maybe the others wanted to keep their ears? Nothing they say under torture is reliable. I can only imagine your response if it was a vid of Ukrainian soldiers doing this to Russian pows.
did I say it justified anything? why do you guys lie so much?
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03-23-2024 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
did I say it justified anything? why do you guys lie so much?
Yes you clearly implied it as if not then just wtf did your comment even mean?? You just jump to the defence of any non western power in a knee jerk manner it seems, due to West Bad Everyone Else Good. So yeah you clearly implied it, otherwise your comment is simply pointless dribble and sorry but pointless words is our resident pointless dribble guy, whereas you're our resident apologist, hence my observation of your implication.
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03-23-2024 , 05:07 PM
no I didnt imply it lol. theres a lot of nasty videos about this incident.


I didnt see him eat the ear or see it described. and no! before you jump down my throat, that does not "clearly imply" that I dont think it happened or that I think you are making it up. it simply means that I did not see that part of the video.
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03-23-2024 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Maybe the others wanted to keep their ears? Nothing they say under torture is reliable. I can only imagine your response if it was a vid of Ukrainian soldiers doing this to Russian pows.
however, this part doesnt make sense. if they wanted to keep their ears and not get tortured or lessen the torture, then this is about the worst story they can tell bc it is quite obv bullshit.
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03-23-2024 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
however, this part doesnt make sense. if they wanted to keep their ears and not get tortured or lessen the torture, then this is about the worst story they can tell bc it is quite obv bullshit.
Vic if you want to Stan for evil you gotta learn to not comment some stuff at some points in time otherwise it gets too obvious
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03-23-2024 , 06:25 PM
I'm not standing for anyone. I just don't believe their story as told by subtitles on dodgy Twitter accounts.

Do you?
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03-23-2024 , 07:44 PM
Lol

Did I say it?

Yes you implied it



Implying it is not saying it.
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