2 hours and 12 minutes good luck look forward to hearing your thoughts on it

Thanks. Ran out of time this morning, but I'll give a summary whenever I finish it.

This is a review of the interview this is not mine. Video is tl;dr:




"Initial thoughts after the interview:

-Putin knows way too much history
-Putin is operating on an intellectual plane far above all US politicians
-Putin appears to want cooperation but the West have isolated Russia
-Putin does not want to invade Poland or take over the world
-Putin is not the deranged warmonger the MSM describes him as
-Putin is well-aware of the “Deep State” and recognizes the CIA as nefarious

I really wanted to see Putin go into detail on the degeneration of Western society, gender insanity, etc., because I think it would have resonated with the American People. The history about Ukrainian Nazism will be effective and his talk of “denazification” will certainly draw some attention.

Obviously I wanted Tucker to ask Putin about the biolabs in Ukraine, but as I stated yesterday, this topic might be too far of a jump down the rabbit hole for those new to this realm. This interview seemed to be an introductory first impression to appeal to Western citizens and disprove the MSM-created perception of Putin.

Anyone who watched the interview objectively would have to agree that Putin is not the monster we were told he was, and negotiations can be made if there is competency from US leadership. Hopefully this will change the perception of the US being innocent darlings in the conflict, and can eventually lead to mass realization that the US/NATO are the ones who brought war and weapons to Russia’s doorstep via espionage and CIA color revolutions."

Russians using starlink. Elon should be jailed

There was also one Ukrainian who posted that their starlink terminal had slowed to a crawl.

If I was Ukrainian and Elon did that to my country …

It would be hard to be more deep state than the dictator ruling Russia has been for the past 30 years

Well he invents a lot of it which certainly makes it easier.






Low bar, but no he doesn't even get close to clearing it. This statement should tell you a lot about whoever you took this review from though.









Yes, Putin would love to have cooperation in restoring the USSR.








If this were on the table he'd absolutely want to.









Yet here he is, in charge of the largest invasion since WW2.









He is the closest thing to Deep State. He's meddled in several elections now, and has had spies and diplomats kicked out of several countries for meddling in their affairs.










He justified Hitler invading Poland because he wanted to justify his own invasion of Ukraine...

His firehose approach of launching every propaganda campaign he can come up serves as research and he's sticking to the things which his target audience are buying. He didn't bring up Nazism because it hasn't done well. Only the most insane Putin fanatics actually believe that Ukrainians are Nazis and he doesn't need to appeal to them.










If any of your sources are still harping on the biolabs then they're dumb. It's really that simple. No weapons were made in them.










Haven't finished the interview yet, but Putin is a pathological liar; that is part of the reason that he is such a monster. US/NATO did not force Putin to invade Ukraine, that's ridiculous, and it was discussed at length in the previous thread. A defensive agreement is only a threat to a country that feels they must invade other countries.

Putin found out first hand that the color revolutions were not CIA orchestrated. He found this out because when he tried to do it himself he failed, and it was extremely obvious. The vast majority of Ukrainians did not want to subservient to Putin, and for good cause. Manufacturing mass revolt did not happen, and probably isn't possible, although Putin is certainly trying his hardest.

I skipped the first 30 minutes

That was smart of you.


So far from what I've seen it's all a bizarre history lesson though.

up to 53 minutes and still history but at least there is some relation to the only question asked so far. Doubt Biden or Trump could give a 1000 year history lesson though

It was actually very interesting minus some off the rambling 1k year history stuff.

The first half hour is spent recapping his essay "On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians", which denies Ukrainian identity and recaps the Russian Empire.

It is a bunch of bad history. The history is often true but completely lacking context, or trying to use modern concepts in times when they did not exist. Anyways it's not compelling and likely lost a good portion of his audience, I have no idea what he thought he was doing by spending a half hour on this. Tucker did ask some good questions here, especially “Do you believe Hungary has a right to take its land back from Ukraine, and that other nations have a right to go back to their 1654 borders?” Putin didn't seem to grasp that Tucker was making fun of the completely arbitrary logic that Putin was trying to sell, so Tucker even followed up with “Have you told Viktor Orbán that he can have part of Ukraine?” I don't think Putin ever got what was being said, he just said "No."

The strangest thing out of this segment was the WW2 "history" where he blamed Poland for getting invaded and starting WW2:

It's pretty easy to see why Putin would try to sell this narrative, although strange that he'd try to draw parallel between himself and Hitler. After that he gets into more modern things. There is little structure to the interview as it's pretty much Putin talking about whatever he wants with a few questions interjected by Tucker, mostly softballs.

• Putin asked Clinton if he could join NATO. Clinton said he thought it might be possible, then said it wasn’t. He makes sure to say that he wasn’t bitter though, that it’s just that was clear USA didn’t want to work with Russia.
  
• He complains that USA supported (militarily and financially) the terrorists in the Caucasus. He says the CIA sent him a note that they were doing it, so he should be believed.
  
• Putin claims he wanted to make a missile defense system with Europe and USA, they agreed then walked it back. This meant he had to build the best hypersonic missile system in the world.
  
• He was promised NATO would not expand East, then they had 5 waves of expansion. Bush was like a kindergarten bully, and forced everyone to keep the doors of NATO open for Ukraine and Georgia. They gave no guarantees that they wouldn’t join NATO so Putin had to invade them.
  
• When Yanukovych originally won the election (the one Putin gave millions to his candidate to campaign, had the head of the church back, then poisoned the opposition when those failed, and finally just rigged the election), there was a “coup” to overthrow him by demanding peaceful protests requesting another round of elections that wasn’t rigged.
  
• When Yanukovych actually won the election the issue of Ukraine joining EU came up. Putin claims:
  
  
  Quote:

  We had always been lenient towards this, suit yourself. But when we read through the treaty of association, it turned out to be a problem for us since we had the free trade zone and open customs borders with Ukraine, which under this association had to open its borders for Europe, which would have led to flooding of our market. We said no, this is not going to work. We shall close our borders with Ukraine then. Yanukovych started to calculate how much Ukraine was going to gain, how much to lose and said to his European partners ‘I need more time to think before signing. The moment he said that, the opposition began to take destructive steps which were supported by the West. It all came down to Maidan and a coup in Ukraine.
  […]
  “A coup detat was committed.
  
  
  USA said they’d calm the opposition, Putin should calm Yanukovych. They agreed. The police and the military did not kill anyone, yet the armed opposition committed a coup in Kyiv backed by the CIA. This created a threat to Crimea so Russia had to take it under their protection. Ukraine launched the war in Donbas in 2014 by using aircraft and artillery against civilians. Ukraine kept launching military operations.
  
  Putin had to step in, it would have been negligent not to. Putin thinks he remembers some USA official admitted they spent 5 billion on the coup. It was successful, but they made a big mistake by attacking Crimea and Donbas, which forced Putin to act. If they had just let things handle themselves peacefully then Ukraine could have voted in their new president and things would have been great.
  
• Ukraine backstabbed them with the Minsk agreements. Putin claims he would have slowly reintegrated the Donbas to Ukraine, but Ukraine wanted war, and he couldn’t let that happen so he had to go to war to stop the war. 2022's full scale invasion is another attempt to stop that war. Tucker asks if he achieved his goals, and he says no because there’s still Nazis in Ukraine. At the Istanbul peace talks, as a good faith measure Putin withdrew his troops from Kyiv so they could have peace. He was betrayed by Ukraine who insisted on war.
  
• Tucker asks what is Denazification? Putin replies that since Ukraine had no identity they decided to build a false one based on Hitler collaborators. Bandera and others who exterminated Jews Poles and Russians for Nazi Germany and are hailed as heroes. He talks about the Canadian parliament incident. Putin dodges some questions about what he can do about fighting Nazism in a country he doesn’t control. He says at Istanbul they agreed no Nazism in the legislative branch.
  
• If the West really wants peace then stop supplying weapons, it will be over in a few weeks and they can have peace.
  
• Russia has no plans to invade Poland, Lithuania etc. Doesn’t USA have better things to do than fight in Ukraine?
  
• CIA blew up Nordstream. He refuses to say if he has evidence. He claims that Ukraine is refusing the open the gas pipeline from Russia to Germany and he doesn’t understand why Germany won’t ask them to do it. He claims that they must be incompetent and it’s silly that Germany is the #2 provider of weapons to Ukraine but Ukraine won’t let Germany get Russian gas. (The fact that Germany doesn’t want Russian gas is apparently beyond his comprehension,)
  
• rambling about the brain being split into 2 parts.
  
• 33 trillion in debt is bad. America using the dollar as a weapon was a blunder, they should lift sanctions . Prior to 2022 Russia did 80% of transactions in USD, now it’s 13%. This damages the US economy and undermines USA’s power.
  
• 1:23: China is a peaceful nation and the West is harming themselves by limiting trade with them. Russia’s trade with China is 230 billion and balanced with high tech and other things (blatantly false.)
  
• BRICS share of the world economy is larger than G7. USA responded to this with sanctions, bombings and armed forces. Sanctions are an attempt to remain dominant while the world is adapting and moving past USA.. Despite the sanctions Russia is Europe’s #1 economy.
  
  
• Ukraine said Russians were a non-titular entity, and was passing laws against non-titular entities, so Russia had to invade Crimea to stop the war the neo-Nazis started. Zelenskyy ran on peace, but when he got into power he realized the neo-nazis run the government and USA gives the neo-nazis aid. This prompts Tucker to ask if Zelenskyy has the power to end the war. Putin recognizes the contradiction and does some back and forth eventually saying has the power to end the war since he’s head of state, although the real power is held by neo-nazis who performed the coup in 2014. Boris Johnson stopped the peace talks. Russia has never refused peace talks, it was always Ukraine.
  
• To Tucker’s credit he asks Putin for his version of what happened with Evan Gershkovich and if Putin would be willing to release him as a gesture of goodwill. Putin says he’s already made so many gestures of goodwill that he’s run out of them. Tucker says he’s clearly not a spy, so maybe it degrades Russia to demand a spy for him. Putin said he was engaged in espionage and was caught “red handed” receiving confidential information. He was working for the Special Services, so they need to come to an agreement.

Do you think he's compelled to lie-- like if you ask him what he had for breakfast he'll say pancakes even though you both know he had oatmeal and he has nothing to gain? Or do you think he just lies the way all politicians lie only worse?

The latter. Taking issue with my hyperbole?

No I was genuinely curious if you actually thought that although I assumed that you did not.

Do you think Tucker did a good job? Makes an honest attempt to interview him

Better than I thought. The questions at the beginning regarding Russia's historical claims were good, it's too bad Putin didn't pick up on the meaning. Saying there was no way Evan was spying was good as well.

Other than that he let Putin say whatever he wanted and even tried to hand some easy leading questions to help him. I was expecting that to be the entire interview so the two exceptions were pleasant surprises.


Did anyone else watch?

Watched it if only because it is a novelty these days to see someone actually attempting journalism

Since there seems to be some confusion about what journalism is from our Sheffield-based contingent, this is journalism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77_jB4yJYaA

Indeed and I have my suspicions, and if true, then I'm not sure if making hard decisions for political reasons is a good strategy in an actual war.

I haven't and you provided the highlights so I may not. I thought Putin was verbal in English . Curious why he needs to answer in Russian or is that more for his people

heads of state almost always answer in their own language during interviews.

If Zaluzhnyi and Zelenskyy were not working well together for whatever reason then one of them needs to go.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/02/...le/?swcfwerwer

Really good read on a lot of subjects.