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06-15-2024 , 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jbouton
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ft-still-theft











So those are putin's words. And the statement from the Russian Bespalov.



So putin is definitely saying that its not an unproked invasion. We can all agree on that.

Without external help we can all agree ukraine has no chance.



And ukraine war bonds won't sell.



These are accepted facts and I provide some sources for my assertions about what was said right?



And we have a warmongering Lyndsay graham talking about the resources they can capitalize on:



We can agree Putin said that.
Can you point out where Ukraine initiated their invasion of Russia?
I can say the sky is green and Putin can say Russia is not the aggressor. Doesn't make it true.
Who invaded who?
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06-16-2024 , 12:05 AM
I'm afraid those questions will not be answered.
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06-16-2024 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I'm afraid those questions will not be answered.
Right. Wasn't reading the mod thread since he started polluting it and insta regretted engaging him here.
Hope he starts to feel better.
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Yesterday , 04:12 AM
Ukraine's trying to recruit 20k prisoners now...
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Yesterday , 05:24 AM
Where did you read that? Their prison population was very small, something like 40k. They had 5k volunteer.
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Yesterday , 01:49 PM
google it. was covered by every mainstream media a few days ago. I dont touch twitter
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Yesterday , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Luciom
If by succeeding fairly well you mean not having enough pilots to control the Channel and Dunkirk then sure
I've only just seen this and it's false, which is unsurprising. Obviously the RAF covered the Dunkirk evacuation, preventing the Luftwaffe from interdicting the operation as Goering promised, and the RAF also maintained air superiority over the Channel and Southern England, defeating the enemy's invasion plans (because the enemy required air superiority to neutralise the Royal Navy while his inadequate Rhine barges attempted the crossing). It's too bad your side lost and your boy Benito got strung up from a lamppost, but there we are.
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Yesterday , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
I've only just seen this and it's false, which is unsurprising. Obviously the RAF covered the Dunkirk evacuation, preventing the Luftwaffe from interdicting the operation as Goering promised, and the RAF also maintained air superiority over the Channel and Southern England, defeating the enemy's invasion plans (because the enemy required air superiority to neutralise the Royal Navy while his inadequate Rhine barges attempted the crossing). It's too bad your side lost and your boy Benito got strung up from a lamppost, but there we are.
The RAF barely managed to accomplish the results you listed because American heroes went fighting as pilots in it.

As I wrote the british hadn't enough pilots on their own.

That became mainstream knowledge after the "pearl harbor" movie.

My side won, my side is the loyalists which helped the USA take back Italian cities in a heartbeat and joined the allies in 1943
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Yesterday , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MoViN.tArGeT
google it. was covered by every mainstream media a few days ago. I dont touch twitter
I could only find a Kyiv Independent article. It's not well written and I'm not too sure what "could recruit 20k" means. I think they mean that's the eligible pool, which is not much. I read they are expecting 5k from whatever the pool is, but I thought the pool was 40k.
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Yesterday , 10:13 PM
your saying theres only 20k people in prison in ukraine? that seems... impossible
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Yesterday , 10:22 PM
They had a very small prison population pre war, it was 50k in 2021 and falling. Rapists, murderers (with some exceptions), anyone accused of working with Russia, and being guilty of corruption all disqualify from the program.

I thought this would mean 40k eligible. It sounds like the article might be saying only 20k eligible. Even if it is 40k eligible, 20k joining seems unrealistic.



This is a huge discrepancy too. Ukraine is really going to struggle to recruit. I think they will be lucky to get 150k, so plus or minus 15k is massive.
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Yesterday , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
They had a very small prison population pre war, it was 50k in 2021 and falling. Rapists, murderers (with some exceptions), anyone accused of working with Russia, and being guilty of corruption all disqualify from the program.

I thought this would mean 40k eligible. It sounds like the article might be saying only 20k eligible. Even if it is 40k eligible, 20k joining seems unrealistic.



This is a huge discrepancy too. Ukraine is really going to struggle to recruit. I think they will be lucky to get 150k, so plus or minus 15k is massive.
do we have data on people managing to flee the country? even estimates
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Yesterday , 10:33 PM
Not that I know of. It's bad though.

There's also a lot who have figured out how to continue living in Ukraine without registering.
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