"Our rule is to be thinking less about free speech"






What are you thoughts on this direction the left is taking our society?

What is it with these yootoobe guys not understanding how the 1st Amendment works at any level?

sToP cUrTAIling muH fReeDuMbs!

Who knew the Twitter CEO could singlehandedly abolish the 1st Amendment?

Utube guys don’t know much of anything

He isn't trying to abolish it. He's letting us know how he feels about it.

Solid 22nd post

False.

That is what a Derp thinks and says but what he is saying is clear. Twitter is not concerned with the 1st Amendment nor being bound by it since it DOES NOT APPLY to private companies.

No private company should concern itself with or be governed buy the 1st Amendment. That is just not a thing for a private corporation.

No individual should be allowed to walk out into the middle of their corporate floor and state "I actually hate working with POC and Jews, etc. I had offices that are multicultural. I can't stand looking around and seeing these people' and the company not be able to fire them simple because the 1st Amendment allows and protects such speech.

Companies have never been governed by that but suddenly Derps want Social Media too be so they can continue to say offensive things on SM without consequence.

NO.

“Our Rule is Not to be Bound by the 1st Amendment"

Well yeah. Why on Earth would the first amendment place burdens on private groups like twitter? It exists precisely to prevent the government from mandating what private companies publish like the far right is trying to do.

Even if Twitter were subject to the FA, I don't know what it would mean to say that Twitter should not be "bound" by the FA. The FA is an affirmative protection, not a constraint.

It's a proxy for the right to free speech in many contexts. We commonly say ii in our countries without a constitution. Until fairly recently people tended to agree whereas now it's a politcal issue because many of us dont support a right to free speech.

Just translate it to beiong about restrictions on what it's users can say. What else could it possibly mean?

A lot of social media pionerrs believed in the right to free speech as a good principle. Now they are being forced by success and with laws/backlashes to reconsider.

I think he means you will allow any speech that is not illegal on your platform. Some speech is not even protected by the FA and only those things will be removed. But yeah, it’s not really a bound. It’s a bizarre policy that literally no private institution uses that you are choosing to follow.

The right you describe is a right to not be persecuted by the state for voicing your opinion. It is not a right to compel private corporations to give you a platform to voice it, nor a right to compel private individuals to listen to it.

I understand how it would work in practice. I just think that it is odd to talk about an affirmative right as a boundary.

Yeah, bound is a weird word there.

That's misses the point completely. And people are now talking about 'bound' as an odd word buit in the more obvious context it means users bound by the rules of the platform and enforced by the platform.

"There is no right to free speech on this platform and you are bound by it's rules/decisions" A perfectly reasonable and clear thing to say. And it's still reasonable if it's said clumsily and refers to the 1st or any other such nonsense.

If some want to argue the obvious reading is not what was meant in this case because ... then fine but there is an obvious and reasonable meaning.

Wait, what? That sounds like a dumb thing to do.

No idea wtf chez is going on about, I've never heard anyone in the UK refer to any amendment other than the 5th, which they obviously got from movies/TV.

Really you dont understand why people talk about the right to free speech as a principle rather than a law? It's common including in the usa.

D2 misunderstood again but might be blown away to hear people in the uk 'pleadin' the 5th' edit: oh even noticed that!

Consider me well and truly blown.

Chez, you don’t have to run interference for every yootoobe clown that gets dunked on here. Let us enjoy this guy and his embarrassing takes.

I appreciate you prefer that to understanding anything.

But there's actually an importnat political point because it's very good to see social media platforms abanding the right to free speech for it's users.

Are you *sure* you’re from an English-speaking country, chez?

Yes. Maybe you should try it.

When we specifically mean legal right we tend to add the word 'legal'

Have you even read 'rights of man'

He's probably Welsh or something. That's a bit like being from Alabama.