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Are you 8? I recant what I said about what Biden admitted to saying--clearly he did not reference his son or the company on whose board his son sat in that clip. Who gives a **** though? Why does that matter?

You’re throwing a tantrum over being called out for repeatedly spreading misinformation.

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09-23-2019 , 02:44 PM

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You’re throwing a tantrum over being called out for repeatedly spreading misinformation.

You posted a complete non-sequitor to my post to attack me for something that had nothing to do with what you were responding to.
What is that called exacly?
The information I've spread is literally what one half of this narrative is all about. Whether it's wrong or not is completely irrelevant. This thread is supposed to be in a bubble? I don't know what's true here. Maybe the whole thing is made up. But you think you've got some moral highground somewhere? Get real.
People going to bat for shady Ukrainian energy deal arrangements....what's next?

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09-23-2019 , 02:49 PM

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It’s just so out of character for LB to immediately go along with a Republican talking point.

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It’s just so out of character for LB to immediately go along with a Republican talking point.

Trolly do you have an idea about what will happen here?
Mine is below. What are your thoughts?

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Here is my prediction: we're still waiting on the IG report that is said to detail alleged FISA abuses by the Obama admin and justice department during the Trump/Russia investigation.
When that report comes out, it will show the democrats in similar sorts of behavior or worse. It will look bad for them but they'll be able to point at Trump/Ukraine. The effect though is more people wake up to the corrupt system and nature of politics while still keeping them in their two-party bubbles a bit. Keep the partisans partisans to sell media but bring people a step closer to demanding the reforms that the ruling class seeks to make in the first place.

Like literally it's "mysterious whistleblower has information that looks bad for Trump and Biden"--who happen to all be running for president. Political theater.

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Trolly do you have an idea about what will happen here?

Nancy Pelosi will be Very Concerned, you’ll continue to parrot out Giuliani’s lies, and then Trump will do something even more outrageous next week.

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09-23-2019 , 03:06 PM

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Nancy Pelosi will be Very Concerned, you’ll continue to parrot out Giuliani’s lies, and then Trump will do something even more outrageous next week.

Probably we should just ignore Giuliani and pretend like Biden is a saint.

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09-23-2019 , 03:13 PM

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and pretend like Biden is a saint.

Ever thought of maybe spending one day without being dishonest, just to see what it feels like? You might even enjoy it!

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Probably we should just ignore Giuliani and pretend like Biden is a saint.

Probably we should just call Giuliani a liar unless he provides some actual evidence to support his accusations.

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Probably we should just call Giuliani a liar unless he provides some actual evidence to support his accusations.

PairTheBoard

No problem there. Maybe we could write letters to Pelosi even.

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Probably we should just ignore Giuliani and pretend like Biden is a saint.

This is you throwing a hissy fit, again.

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You’re throwing a tantrum over being called out for repeatedly spreading misinformation.

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This is you throwing a hissy fit, again.

This is your role in this thread apparently. I appreciate you keeping me in line.

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You are posting Trump’s narrative, which has been proven to be false. Then you continued to post his attorney’s lies without any qualification. For someone so concerned about talking about how all the media spreads lies for the elites to keep the proles distracted from the truth, you don’t seem at all concerned that you are doing their dirty work for them.

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I am not posting Trump's narrative. That is a silly thing to say. I'm posting my own narrative. I think this is real life corruption meets political theater.

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09-23-2019 , 04:04 PM

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Why would Trump's personal lawyer even be involved in this?

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09-23-2019 , 05:09 PM

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All lies and more lies! Biden has not been shown to be corrupt in any way. These Giuliani tweets are for the purpose of calling out the lies.
Pure lies out of whole-cloth.

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Biden has not been shown to be corrupt in any way.

Agreed.

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Agreed.

Rudy G is setting out to prove that wrong though. I don't think I'd want to bet against him.

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In that case then what I'm saying is that this really doesn't matter.

Of course it matters, you made a completely unsubstantiated claim and the entire thread is derailed.

Trump has likely yet again engaged in unlawful conduct, that's the story here.

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Of course it matters, you made a completely unsubstantiated claim and the entire thread is derailed.

Trump has likely yet again engaged in unlawful conduct, that's the story here.

How do you think we can best get this thread back on track? Last thing I'd want to do is derail a thread by discussing the allegations that make this whole thing a story.

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Rudy G is setting out to prove that wrong though. I don't think I'd want to bet against him.

I'm fine with betting against Giuliani. I'll bet $100 at even odds that Biden will not be indicted by the US government for any crimes related to his son being on the board of Burisma or pressuring the Ukrainian government to get rid of Shokin.

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Rudy G is setting out to prove that wrong though. I don't think I'd want to bet against him.

Why?

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I'm not going to bet that leading Presidential candidate is indicted anytime soon.

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Why?

He's literally saying that he's going to keep dropping dirt on Biden daily is the biggest reason.

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09-23-2019 , 06:15 PM

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He's literally saying that he's going to keep dropping dirt on Biden daily is the biggest reason.

I'm sure he will be on some media outlet or other almost every night. But that doesn't mean much. As I'm sure you have observed, almost no one takes him seriously now. He is given a platform largely because he is willing to go on air unprepared and make a fool of himself.

I would bet strongly against him being competent enough to execute a takedown at this point.