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Old Today, 03:10 PM   #17376
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Re: Trump

Rs--Hollywood, Foreigners and the Media are evil.

Prominent R Pols--Reagan, Schwarzenegger, Trump and now Carlson

Real easy to sit in the relative safety of the nice big blue bubbles and spout off about R-life lol. Not like many want to actually go live it though.
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Old Today, 03:13 PM   #17377
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Old Today, 05:50 PM   #17378
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Well that is the core Trump Maga crowd.

See my last post. What I am saying is that group alone on that message alone is not enough to govern. It does not motivate moderate republicans and independents who are required.

Trump got those others based on being 'unknown' and lying about what he could and would do. He has lost all of them (outside the hardcore MAGA) because now he has a record and we have seen what he will do.

So if Trump loses and they try to elevate a new Trump (Jim Jordan? Matt Gaetz??) to carry that mantle and delivering the message you say ("... the real enemy will still be libs who want to kill babies, confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens, don't believe in God and eliminate the police"), you will not even get the Trump hardcore base sticking with them in such high numbers as those guys cannot carry Trump's water.

None of them can get the ~90% support in that base Trump does.

And those guys certainly will not attract moderate or old school Republicans, or independents.
I am reluctant to think that either party will have a decades long stranglehold on power in a two-party system. Recessions or scandals happen and when they do, the power in power gets thrown out.

What you are saying sounds a lot like people who claimed after Watergate that the Republicans would not win the Presidency again for decades. One election later, the Republicans were back in power and scored one of the biggest landslides in U.S. history a decade after Watergate.

I could see a "defund the police" platform getting hung around the necks of Democrats everywhere in 2024 or even something else we never see coming.
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Old Today, 08:41 PM   #17381
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Trump has lost his edge. He canít even get his rallies going anymore. His message doesnít reverberate.

His only hope is that Biden is a complete disaster during the debates. And he might be. He isnít quite all there.
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I am reluctant to think that either party will have a decades long stranglehold on power in a two-party system. Recessions or scandals happen and when they do, the power in power gets thrown out.
All of the boomers were born in an era when the Ds had basically been in control for ~40yrs. And they think(or have been sold on the idea) we can bring that time back only with a completely different strat. The maga messaging is essentially built on the nostalgia for that time period--but they pine for the bad parts too, overt racism etc.
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