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06-30-2020 , 05:00 PM
Wow
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06-30-2020 , 05:08 PM
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Before the hearing began, Republican Senator Lamar Alexander, who leads the committee, appealed to President Donald Trump to wear a face mask - an act he has yet to do in a public event.

"Sadly this simple life saving practice has become part of the political debate," said the ally of Mr Trump.

"If you are for Trump you don't wear a mask, if you are against Trump you do," he continued, going on to "suggest that the president occasionally wear a mask".

"The president has plenty of admirers that would follow his lead," he said.
I don't know what you can do other than sigh at this. It's almost tragic.
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06-30-2020 , 05:41 PM
bahbah, are you white? I'm assuming you are. Do you think Mexicans want to be told by a white guy that what the president said wasn't racist?

Mexicans already felt the statements were racist, that should be enough to say "yes, trump made racist statements about Mexicans".

Maybe look in some Mexican newspapers and you'll find that they think the statements were racist: https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/artic...-absurd-racist

If trump made the statements about Mexicans while wearing a KKK grand wizard robe under a nazi flag, you would be arguing the same bs about how "he didn't exactly say that all mexicans were rapists!"

Even Google knows.... https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+rapist+statements
"Did you mean: trump racist statements?"
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06-30-2020 , 05:53 PM
Just creating the aura of a legitimate argument as to whether or not Trump's obviously racist statement was actually racist - is a big win for the bahbah's of the world.

Just like pretending Trump's pantomime slam on the disabled reporter wasn't mocking his disability.

You guys aren't fooling anyone. We have eyes and ears.
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06-30-2020 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
We can argue back and forth if trump or biden are racist, but the more important argument is what race, if any, would be better off under biden than trump.

Also, I am not arguing that trump is 0% racist. I am just claiming that people that said trump said Mexicans are rapists because of that speech either haven't heard the speech and are drinking kool-aid or they don't have a good handle of English language.
You are being very disingenuous here.

You are trying to deflect by using the literal when we know what image, and message Trump was very carefully crafting and delivering.

It is like Bill Clinton trying to dance around the word "IS" to say he is not lying. Dude you are LYING regardless of the definition. Context matters. Usage matters. What you portray matters.

A lie is an 'attempt to deceive'.

What happens often (Clinton example) and what you are trying to do here, and what we see talking heads on Talk Show news do regularly act as if nothing is true if it could not prosecuted as a lie under oath and garner a guilty conviction.

You (and they) act like if you can show any day light in the statement that could make it escape a perjury charge, which requires literal proof, then therefore it cannot be said to be a lie.

Trumps entire characterization and the imagery used day after day of the Mexican's and the Migrants was to be terrified. They are dark skinned and terrifying. They are disease ridden and criminal and come from sh*t hole countries.

Trump has run his first term on a bedrock of racism, his attempt to shut down all immigration legal and illegal is an attempt to stop the browning of America. His desire to find a reason to let in White South African farmer migrants and his desire for more people from Noooorway, feeds his desire to start tipping it back towards more white.

No one cares about the literal hoops you jump to say 'But I can characterize it another way therefore...' as that is simply disingenuous.
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06-30-2020 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Just creating the aura of a legitimate argument as to whether or not Trump's obviously racist statement was actually racist - is a big win for the bahbah's of the world.

Just like pretending Trump's pantomime slam on the disabled reporter wasn't mocking his disability.

You guys aren't fooling anyone. We have eyes and ears.
yup. As I say in my last post I have dealt with Trump supporters who argue he was not mocking his disability.

Same when it comes to his "...go back to where you came from" comment to the women of color Congress people born in the US.

You go thru this series of hoops where they say 'there is another possibility' and then they think that alone is enough to then act as if all view points are therefore equal on this.

They see talking heads do it on Talk News and get away with it and think then they can do the same IRL.
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06-30-2020 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lvr
so where is the link?

lol for someone who just watched it
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Originally Posted by ChiddyBang
Didn't post the link. Color me shocked!
You two are also unqualified to be posting here.

Color me shocked that all the Trump supporters are equally ignorant.
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06-30-2020 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
It is one thing to be like goofyballer & marksman and buy into the mainstream media lie that he said something he didn't from a couple years ago....



But to post like the following two posters after video proof that he didn't say what the media and most liberals claimed is a different level a drinking kool-aid.





He is saying that there is a higher % of rapists and drug dealers/smugglers in the group that are illegally crossing the border from mexico than a random group of Mexican citizens. Which is as racist as saying white people that have been convicted of a crime are more likely to rape someone than a white person who has never committed a crime.
Mickey,

While you ever learn not to touch anything involving numbers?
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06-30-2020 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Incredible. Right in the video he says Mexicans coming across the border are, among other derogatory things, rapists, and he assumes some of them are good people.
In Trump supporter fantasy land, adding that caveat onto the end of his extremely racist diatribe fixes everything.
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06-30-2020 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SiMor29
Wait, what? Is that true? That's hilarious if so. I can't imagine being embarrassed enough about your own convictions that you have to tippy toe around them like that.

Also, just had a foray into trump twitter, well more specifically the notion that there really is an old trump tweet for every occasion. 1) there really is! It's insane. 2) He really has had a hard on for Obama for like the last ten years. It is also insane. The inferiority complex is so obvious, it's palpable.
You will find almost all of the non stop trump defenders on this forum also claim to not be trump supporters. It is a unique kind of cowardice.
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06-30-2020 , 08:30 PM
Almost 50,000 cases today and the daily death #'s are climbing . Trump is done.

Biden should phone in sick for the debates and offer his VP to debate
Damn they just may get the Senate and the house
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06-30-2020 , 08:35 PM
Where are the unedited videos then?

If it's so easy to find then where is it?

One guy actually claimed to have watched the video but for some reason he can't post the link after his claim. seems weird

just so much back and forth without proper context

liberal media loves to do this bs and you clowns always fall for it
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06-30-2020 , 08:46 PM
Wtf are you babbling about? Is this not unedited video?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ng_border.html

It matches the transcript that was posted here word for word.
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06-30-2020 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lvr
Where are the unedited videos then?

If it's so easy to find then where is it?

One guy actually claimed to have watched the video but for some reason he can't post the link after his claim. seems weird

just so much back and forth without proper context

liberal media loves to do this bs and you clowns always fall for it
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Wtf are you babbling about? Is this not unedited video?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ng_border.html

It matches the transcript that was posted here word for word.
Hand wave incoming in......
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06-30-2020 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
So you are agreeing that in no way can this be considered racist, correct? Since it is absurd to claim racism when someone says that one group of a race is more likely to be bad than another group of the same race.

You can also admit that he didn't say all people illegally crossing the border from mexico are bad people too.
But he said the people that were coming aren't "you", referring to his audience and with reference to violent crimes. That's definitely racist because people coming from Mexico illegally aren't more likely to commit rapes or violent crimes than his audience. It's pretty textbook racism.
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06-30-2020 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Almost 50,000 cases today and the daily death #'s are climbing . Trump is done.

Biden should phone in sick for the debates and offer his VP to debate
Damn they just may get the Senate and the house
Actually False
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07-01-2020 , 12:58 AM
Denial is metastatic within the psyche. When its your go to move regarding uncomfortable truth, the actions of people are truly inexplicable except for understanding this basic dynamic. I deny, I lie it away, I eventually at the end game of this strategy ... display outright contempt for truth, by flagrantly doing the very opposite of what truth, if admitted, would demand.. To wit, passing a law making it illegal to mandate mask wearing. It's a subconscious process. Denial raised to the point of not only avoiding, but aggressing against truth. The Manhattan Mountebank is one of history's greatest exemplars of this ... as are his legions (or at least they must become so to follow his lead).
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07-01-2020 , 08:30 AM


He really is the embodiment of america. the president they deserve.
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07-01-2020 , 11:16 AM
Hey Simor, not all of us. Don't forget about all of the money I've shipped you for gambling losses...
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07-01-2020 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by adios
Your chart does not show that to be false. It is inconclusive at best at this stage as deaths are in fact rising as of the latest data in the chart, but the question left unanswered by your chart is will it downturn again soon as it has prior historically??

What is important to understand is that there is a direct line correlation between 'number of new people getting infected' and 'eventual deaths from Covid'.

The deaths are a lagging stat but very calculable. So you need to overlay your graph with one comparing the trend lines of 'new infections' and which way those lines are going as that will show you very clearly which way Deaths will go over the next few months.

This prior post by me addresses that. You can see the PROJECTION made below and how pinpoint ACCURATE it ended up being.


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BTW I want people to pay specific attention to this chart as it would produced in early May with a PROJECTION as to where numbers looked to be headed for DEATHS by June. The US is now at 128,000 total deaths.

So the projection was right on.




Here is the today's forward look extending out to Oct 1 with 179,000 total DEATHS.



That will move the US to within striking distance of the last major big record for Corona Virus tragedy they do not yet hold.

Deaths Per 1MM citizens.

Currently the US has 388 deaths per Million and this would push them up 544 deaths per Million and just under 100 cases per million behind the #1.


So for Trumpsters I guess they would be cheering this rise on as they always want to see the US as #1 in everything they do???

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07-01-2020 , 11:33 AM
The US is already the runaway champ winning the Academy Award for 'Most Deaths'.

Soon they will take that last coveted record of Most Deaths Per Capita if they don't turn this trend around.



And sadly Trumpsters will cheer this on the entire way saying 'no one could have done any better. Trump did great.'
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07-01-2020 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SiMor29


He really is the embodiment of america. the president they deserve.
Another impeachable abuse of office. Blatant attacks on any negative press and offering a quid pro quo to Fox "News" to be nice to him.
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07-01-2020 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by markksman
You two are also unqualified to be posting here.



Color me shocked that all the Trump supporters are equally ignorant.
Seems like projection
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07-01-2020 , 11:57 AM
yeah, man, those two are just hiding their ****ing genius
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07-01-2020 , 12:41 PM
Just a tip for those of you still defending and/or supporting Trump, recently his twitter feed has become pretty much all racism all the time.

Thought you all should know as you pretend that supporting that doesn’t impact how others see you. However Trump is now going hard in the paint on the racism so supporting or defending him no longer would identify you as just a passive racist, but instead a hardcore racist.
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