There are only two polls in 538's database at either the state or national level that include any post-debate data at all, and there are zero that are purely post-debate.

Survey Monkey throws a lot of darts. Some of them are bound to hit.

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Say it enough times, something something, becomes true.

I'm like 2p2 Batman. Absorbing all the unfounded hate while fighting the good fight for truth, justice, and the American way. At least, I think that's how it goes. I'm not current with my comic lore.

Now watch it flow

That psychic TV show I went to one time had a lot of hits, too. He even knew that someone had a loved one reaching out that had an M sound somewhere within their name! It was like magic!

Old people bruise much more easily, especially if they are taking medications like blood thinners and corticosteroids, which many old people do. Often, severe bruising can occur from things like blood draws or minor impacts that would not produce any bruises at all on a younger person. My mother takes medication for heart disease, and she is prone to exactly the sort of bruising that you see on Mitch.

In sum, Mitch is old. He probably is taking medicine for a condition that is typical for an old person (some degree of heart disease, psoriasis, or whatever). And like a lot of old people who take those medicines, he is susceptible to crazy bruising that makes it look like he decided over the weekend to give MMA fighting a try.

There is not a general thread for the election but I wanted to discuss what I think might be an important issue.

Do you think Trump is getting hammered because there is just much less influence attack from foreign interests via social media etc, and that social media whilst still a long way from perfect has matured slightly in terms of defending against such?

Even on this forum itself there seems a lot less newposterlowpostcountobvioustrollhouse posting going on in general.

Just putting it out there, because I am sure in the last election the Hunter thing would have got more legs given how entrenched and persistent but her emails became.

Isn't that Superman's tag-line?

A big part of the traction of the Hillary emails stuff was that people were actively looking for reasons to hate her and vote against her. Scandals and faux-scandals alike are more likely to stick to someone with a deeply negative favorability rating than they are to someone like Biden who has a net-positive favorability rating.

I think the voters are more wise to the 'influence attacks'.

There was no real defense to the Hilary one and when the only one truly defending is the accused you are behind the 8 ball. Hilary was forced to defend across the board from Fox type outlets to CNN and MSNBC. While 'explain this...' may seem like a neutral question, we know it is not perceived that way by many. The more thou doth protest, the guiltier one appears to many.

Also this one was so painfully obvious and poorly executed. Trump was really counting on Barr to give him the predicate for the investigation to then build upon. Instead he had to settle for Rudy being the one to force it into the dialogue.

Considering everyone knew Trump was screaming for this to happen for so long, it obviously looked very convenient that suddenly Rudy had the goods to deliver now.

And while i do think the prior poster pointing to Joe 'favorability somewhat accurate, I still think had Hilary not happened last year, and society not prepared for this type of attack, and if this was the first one ever, it likely would have taken Biden down too.

Pretty amazing really considering if both sides were equally scrutinized it would be the Trump family who would be exposed as the true First Family of Crime.

What Trump has shown time and time again thru his Republican primaries to his first POTUS run to now, is that Cersei Lannister crushing Ned Stark was not a fluke.

When you have one side restrained by a sense of rules and ethics and norms up against another who will do, say and be anything necessary to win, the one trying to fight fair really does have one arm tied behind his back.

No one was prepared for a liar like Trump the first time through, especially the media, regular and social, and the citizenry, but now they are, in fact, getting better at seeing thru it.

I agree. It's like with a movie, if it's fun and overall good, you don't care about the plot holes and gaffes, if it isn't, those become a way to ridicule it.

I am still fairly convinced that if anyone CBA to go through election threads from the last election, you would find A LOT more posts from obvioustrollhouseIamAmericanhonest type posters pushing Trump, and this reflected a broader activity across teh interwebs spectrum.

Its probably more EV in the current circumstances for the usual suspects to spend their time convincing people that Corona is 5G/Masks dont work.

Read the predictit discussions (particularly who will win the presidential race) if you want to see hundreds of posts about Hunter and theories about how Biden is quitting the race. The good thing is that each day those silly predictions fail they simply move it up to a new day. Kind of festive in a way, especially when some of the posters forget to translate their posts to English before posting them.

This forum is really dusty, and is not innately a politics based forum, so not really the type that would attract the spam crowd you are looking to measure.

All the best.

Many mainstream internet sites disabled comment section. pro football talk whenever a political topic comes up they are overrun with pro trump talking points. yahoo was bad until they disabled comments

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...6ed_story.html

I had a good laugh at this. Enablers getting exactly what they deserve. They knew who they were lining up with.

You and awval make a good superhero team.

wow, Trump playing all of Biden's contradictions on video at his rallies.

Does anyone think less than 99% of Voters already know who they're voting for?

Trump has been President for ~4 years,
people have seen more than enough already,
to make up their mind one way or the other.

I think it's less than that. I feel like the scandal that is going on with Biden has been strategically timed by the Trump campaign to have the most effect possible.

the people that follow politics at all know who they are voting for. The people who don't follow politics coupled with the people on the fence are the ones that can still be influenced.

I'm sure a bunch of workers in the oil industry are switching their votes right now as well.

Scandal? lol

"a bunch of oil workers"..... changing votes ....... all twelve of the oil workers that were undecided? again,,, lol

troll gunna troll

You should definitely post your deep thoughts in that regard on the predictit site, but be sure to translate it to English before you do, and clean it up so you do not post like the following:

"The Biden family is DOWN going Remember, when, the Bidens are scared, that's when ordinary Americans safe feel."

Keep that in mind when trying to post about your LOLnothingburger "scandal" that has yet to change the polls or the betting odds .

All the best.

Probably very few undecided as to which candidate they’ll pick if they vote. Probably still plenty out there who haven’t decided whether they’ll bother to vote at all.