LOL. Bibi sees the writing on the wall and leaves Trump hanging on a high 5

Trump platform in a single meme.

Probably had some dental work.

you guys see that bret weinstein was banned on facebook? anyone know why? saw that tulsi is big mad. and also saw a few conservative accounts wonder aloud what the libs are gonna do now that one of their own got censored (LOL)

^would have posted the above in the intellectual dark web containment thread, but its locked

Me and my wife did our part waited in line nearly 3 hours to vote for Biden,

Please leave and never come back EnochP.

Kinda looks like he is on anticoagulation for either atrial fibrillation
or DVT.... which should make everyone happy....

Hope Biden going anti-oil in debate doesn't cost him election.

Morning Consult post-debate poll indicates 57% support for his position and 28% opposition.

https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp...ICO_RVs_v1.pdf

Yeah was that an on the run announcement or had he already announced he was against oil and wanting to close it down? Because that will hurt him in other states still producing oil

But are those 57% affected by the jobs that will be lost or just taking an environmental positional only?

But that's OK with Trump because his supporters also think Berlin is in France.

I laughed

Plus he's talking about a transition if you actually listen to people in that industry some of it has already begun and they know it's inevitable for survival. Texas is actually one of the leaders in producing green energy already, specifically wind energy. Anyone with a brain in the oil industry knows they must adapt long term.

From an electoral standpoint, who cares? The votes of someone affected directly and someone affected indirectly count exactly the same.

I'd love to see something like this go viral, then it become a 'boy who cried wolf' scenario when the Trumpers start screaming, "fAkE NEwS!!"

Trump going scorched earth on his surrogates who will not trump up fake charges and investigations against Biden, as he becomes more and more desperate down the stretch for something that can turn that last minute tide and give him that 2016 campaign last minute Comey magic.

The newest target is Trump using surrogate Lou Dobbs to try and get Lindsey Graham out of the Senate if he will not act.



With Trump so far down and those in the GOP in COngress taking an 'every man for themselves' sink or swim type approach now, this could get real ugly as Trump tries to continue to whip them in line and they increasingly give him the finger as they just try to survive.

Trump could end up tipping a lot of Republican Congress close races to Dems but really he does not care about that. If Trump loses he will not care one ounce if the GOP is destroyed in the process. In his mind it is only there to serve him.

Trump is almost 2 points closer nationally post debate.

It does look like he's 1.3% down from his high watermark. I don't think polling has really shown (or necessarily had a chance to meaningfully show) that there's been a notable dip specifically tied to the debate. 538 average had him up 9.9% the day before and day of, and now has him at a 9.7% lead.

Hopefully some good post-debate polling coming out today and tomorrow that gives more of an updated picture. There just hasn't been a lot out there yet.

Currently 9.1 was 9.9 that's significant!

Okay. Possible you're seeing something that I'm not, but I just don't see anything alarming going on as of yet.

There only appear to be four post-debate national polls posted by 538, and one of them is a SurveyMonkey poll they rate as a D-. The numbers that appear to be a drag on his average national lead right now seem to be from that SurveyMonkey poll only having him +6, and IBD/TIPP having him at +6, but that's a daily tracking poll that's been a negative outlier for Biden and where he was actually doing worse a couple of days ago (was up 4.6 and 4.9 respectively in the past couple of days) and has trended positively for him since the debate.

Seems like it's best to wait for the quality pollsters come with the new national numbers that they're very likely coming with over the next couple of days before drawing any notable conclusions from this small sample.

Survey Monkey was pretty accurate in 2016. Had polls accurate with PA, WI, MI going to Trump in 2016. nearly nobody else had them going Trump.

Ins0 being a slumlord is the least surprising development I could have learned from this thread