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08-05-2020 , 09:44 AM
I think Trump will get fewer votes despite higher voter turnout.

I think he will get massacred at the ballot box.
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08-05-2020 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Real Fix
Genuine question from a non american who only follows losely US news:

Is there anything that would convince a voter to vote for trump in 2020 for the first time?

If i exclude peope who were not 18 last US election, I have a feeling that 99% of 2020 trump voter were already amongst Trump voters in 2016.
Sure. Heightened awareness of his racism, for example.
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08-05-2020 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
I think Trump will get fewer votes despite higher voter turnout.

I think he will get massacred at the ballot box.
We shall see, certainly is going to be interesting. I am looking forward to seeing how the mainstream media plays it close to the election in Sept/Oct. Trump has been their golden goose for the past 4 years, will having him leave office affect ratings? Would not surprise me to see them turn on Biden in the fall to help keep Trump in office.
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08-05-2020 , 11:44 AM
I’m pretty skeptical on Trump getting more votes than in 2016. He has pretty noticeable polling drops in the states he got the most votes in (TX, CA, FL). Seems hard for voters who weren’t eligible in 2016 or sat out, both of which seem like awful demos for him, to make up the suburban and elderly voters he looks to have lost. It’s definitely not impossible, I would guess that he’s a dog to do it.
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08-05-2020 , 01:40 PM
It dawned on me today that I can honestly not recall DJT ever genuinely laughing.



Sure, he has that dumbass smirk he makes where he tucks his chin into his neck and widens his eyes, but can't say I can ever recall just a genuine laugh.



He must be so broken...
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08-05-2020 , 01:45 PM
1000+ deaths . Is it what it is. How long before The Lincoln Project runs that line over and over

That was horrible
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08-05-2020 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Yes, China is clearly treating the US very badly on trade, which is why America is the richest country on the world and China is its number 2 trading partner after Canada, lol.

Oh and by the way Trump doesn't understand even the basics of international trade, and neither do most of his voters. Even the trade deals he ended up signing were massive wins for both Beijing and Ottawa. He's been consistently getting his ass handed to him by other world leaders on pretty much every issue, and he's not even smart enough to realize it, or if even if he is he's too craven to care.
The face that USA #1 is #1 is not proof that China hasn't been abusing US in trade for decades and neither does China being a big trade partner to the US. I agree trump, his supporters, the people who hate him and the people who are indifferent on trump don't understand trade all that well on average. In what way do you think trump is getting his ass kicked by other world leaders?
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08-05-2020 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
1000+ deaths . Is it what it is. How long before The Lincoln Project runs that line over and over

That was horrible
Biden's new ad

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08-05-2020 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
The face that USA #1 is #1 is not proof that China hasn't been abusing US in trade for decades and neither does China being a big trade partner to the US. I agree trump, his supporters, the people who hate him and the people who are indifferent on trump don't understand trade all that well on average. In what way do you think trump is getting his ass kicked by other world leaders?
Hey donnie, pass some tariffs our cousins that own the counterfeit bizs wanna hit 3tril. Gracias, ccp. Everybody likes off the books cash
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08-05-2020 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
^^^that is very funny.

But the proof is there simply is no need to parody Trump and doing so suggests exaggeration and parody are necessary to counter him. Just air actual footage. Don't dress it up, and don't exaggerate a thing. Just let it air and speak for itself.

There is not a Saturday Night Live parody that could out compete Trumps own words and performance for the lullz.
Hmmm, the post I replied to with the above, which was a parody of Trump debating Trump seems to have been deleted and I cannot, for the life of me guess why?

Being that this is an all things 'Trump' thread the rise of parody as a way to lampoon or comment on his positions (in this case showing he could debate himself with his contrary statements) is very relevant to the totality of how Trump is perceived and part of what, I would say, is necessary discourse.


Parody, comedy and even meme's do offer social commentary.
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08-05-2020 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Real Fix
Genuine question from a non american who only follows losely US news:

Is there anything that would convince a voter to vote for trump in 2020 for the first time?

If i exclude peope who were not 18 last US election, I have a feeling that 99% of 2020 trump voter were already amongst Trump voters in 2016.
Like there always is for an incumbent there are a bunch of reasons why some people will vote for trump for the first time.

he will encourage schools to reopen, will be tougher on rioters/reduce crime, who will be tougher on China in trade, who will value growing the economy to make everyone better off financially, they are unemployed and know that trump will make it easier for them to get a job, they own a business and value it growing, they realize they were lied to about trump being a danger having the nuclear codes, they don't like how dems wanted to delay the individual bailouts to pay for pet projects, they know trump allowed dems to railroad him into handing out way too much money to individuals and businesses but knows any dem would be even worse, they don't want their taxes to go up, biden wouldn't become the 1st female president and they only didn't vote for trump to vote for a woman, they were too lazy to go vote but now that they can mail it in they will vote or they are now dead and whoever mails in the ballot supports trump.
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08-05-2020 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by noon
He will, but Joe Biden will receive more votes than Hillary did.

56% of eligible voters voted last time, that number should go up, possibly topping 60%.

More people are registered to vote in 2020.

Trump got 62,984,828 last time, he will probably top that this time.

Trump got 46.1% of voters last time, he won't get that high a percentage this time.

Joe Biden should get 50% or more of the votes this time, possibly breaking 70 million votes.

It's not impossible Trump loses the popular vote by 5 million (or more) votes and gets re-elected.

Sad!
I saw one prior assessment that suggested it would be almost impossible for Trump to lose the popular vote by more than 5 Million, and still carry the electoral college.

They simply could not pull enough votes from one area, without assuming ridiculous skewing and make it make sense.

BUt now as I write this, I wonder if that was under the assumption of similar voter turnout? Hmmmm???
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08-05-2020 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Hmmm, the post I replied to with the above, which was a parody of Trump debating Trump seems to have been deleted and I cannot, for the life of me guess why?
I don't see a deleted post there, which either means you're imagining things or mods moved it to another thread (which does not leave a trace in the original thread).
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08-05-2020 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by EADGBE
Biden's new ad

Of all the dumb stuff he has said over the last 4 years and that little saying is a whole ad? I get that you want to avoid biden speaking, but he needs a new marketing team.
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08-05-2020 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Of all the dumb stuff he has said over the last 4 years and that little saying is a whole ad? I get that you want to avoid biden speaking, but he needs a new marketing team.
It's a pretty good distillation of Trump's callous disregard for other people and anything that does not affect him personally.
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08-05-2020 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuepee
Hmmm, the post I replied to with the above, which was a parody of Trump debating Trump seems to have been deleted and I cannot, for the life of me guess why?

Being that this is an all things 'Trump' thread the rise of parody as a way to lampoon or comment on his positions (in this case showing he could debate himself with his contrary statements) is very relevant to the totality of how Trump is perceived and part of what, I would say, is necessary discourse.


Parody, comedy and even meme's do offer social commentary.
Still there, dude. You just replied a bunch of posts after it, you probably didn't have the page refreshed and thought it was the last post in the thread.

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08-05-2020 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Of all the dumb stuff he has said over the last 4 years and that little saying is a whole ad? I get that you want to avoid biden speaking, but he needs a new marketing team.
As long as Trump continues with his marketing approach it will not matter. The orange moron is going to lose to LOLBiden.

USA#1 - 50,000-70,000 cases and 1,000+ deaths a day

Canada - 200-300 cases and 2-12 deaths a day

Is what it is. Maybe we will see you in 2022 when they might re-open the border after LOLBiden gets elected.


All the best.
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08-05-2020 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
The face that USA #1 is #1 is not proof that China hasn't been abusing US in trade for decades and neither does China being a big trade partner to the US. I agree trump, his supporters, the people who hate him and the people who are indifferent on trump don't understand trade all that well on average. In what way do you think trump is getting his ass kicked by other world leaders?
Much of Europe, most of Africa, S. America, Middle East, looks to China as the great business overlord rather than to the US. Starting a new business, look for Chinese investors. Selling property, look for Chinese investors. Etc.
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08-05-2020 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
The face that USA #1 is #1 is not proof that China hasn't been abusing US in trade for decades and neither does China being a big trade partner to the US. I agree trump, his supporters, the people who hate him and the people who are indifferent on trump don't understand trade all that well on average. In what way do you think trump is getting his ass kicked by other world leaders?
See this is a good example of what I said. Here's a guy who obviously supports Trump and doesn't seem to understand even the basic notion of what 'trade' is.

Like here's a clue, a trade is something that happens when there are two parties that seek to make an exchange of some sort, and BOTH SIDES like the deal. I mean I know these are difficult concepts to grasp but you'd think you could at least follow that part.
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08-05-2020 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Like there always is for an incumbent there are a bunch of reasons why some people will vote for trump for the first time.

he will encourage schools to reopen, will be tougher on rioters/reduce crime, who will be tougher on China in trade, who will value growing the economy to make everyone better off financially, they are unemployed and know that trump will make it easier for them to get a job, they own a business and value it growing, they realize they were lied to about trump being a danger having the nuclear codes, they don't like how dems wanted to delay the individual bailouts to pay for pet projects, they know trump allowed dems to railroad him into handing out way too much money to individuals and businesses but knows any dem would be even worse, they don't want their taxes to go up, biden wouldn't become the 1st female president and they only didn't vote for trump to vote for a woman, they were too lazy to go vote but now that they can mail it in they will vote or they are now dead and whoever mails in the ballot supports trump.
Lol It really is something to see such a hilariously bad take as this one.

Trust the guy with the nuclear codes? I mean Jesus Christ, he just botched the coronavirus so badly the USA leads the world in deaths. I can't even imagine what would happen if there was some type of war event.

Above all things 2020 has done, it's 100% driven home the fact that Trump doesn't have a clue how to manage an actual crisis. Most Americans didn't see that up until now because things like hurricane Maria only affected a small number of people mostly living outside the US.

They sure as **** see it now though.
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08-05-2020 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
As long as Trump continues with his marketing approach it will not matter. The orange moron is going to lose to LOLBiden.

USA#1 - 50,000-70,000 cases and 1,000+ deaths a day

Canada - 200-300 cases and 2-12 deaths a day

Is what it is. Maybe we will see you in 2022 when they might re-open the border after LOLBiden gets elected.


All the best.

You forget to convert it for all our American friends as we are on the metric system and they are not . Canada has 1/10 th the population.

I could see Trump saying that. Yeah but Canada is on the Metric system and has fewer people . Lot fewer almost 100 times or close to that
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08-05-2020 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Like there always is for an incumbent there are a bunch of reasons why some people will vote for trump for the first time.

he will encourage schools to reopen, will be tougher on rioters/reduce crime, who will be tougher on China in trade, who will value growing the economy to make everyone better off financially, they are unemployed and know that trump will make it easier for them to get a job, they own a business and value it growing, they realize they were lied to about trump being a danger having the nuclear codes, they don't like how dems wanted to delay the individual bailouts to pay for pet projects, they know trump allowed dems to railroad him into handing out way too much money to individuals and businesses but knows any dem would be even worse, they don't want their taxes to go up, biden wouldn't become the 1st female president and they only didn't vote for trump to vote for a woman, they were too lazy to go vote but now that they can mail it in they will vote or they are now dead and whoever mails in the ballot supports trump.
lol at thinking any of that is true and not just propaganda..
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08-05-2020 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Of all the dumb stuff he has said over the last 4 years and that little saying is a whole ad? I get that you want to avoid biden speaking, but he needs a new marketing team.
That is a pretty impactful statement on Trump's callous disregard for American lives. Just imagine him saying that to families gathered to grieve their lost loved ones.

Only someone with similar callous disregard would not recognize it as such.
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08-05-2020 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Still there, dude. You just replied a bunch of posts after it, you probably didn't have the page refreshed and thought it was the last post in the thread.
oh ya, there it is. Oops.
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08-05-2020 , 05:17 PM
donnie just wants to make everyone better off financially--LOL Well, it sure doesn't look like it
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