I am starting to get the impression that certain posters itt who share opposite views have become codependent on each other. Gotta get your daily fix of disagreement

Correct me if im wrong...but 316 deaths/M (of which almost all had underlying things going on and, on average were 70 years or older, does not qualify as a ''health'' crisis.

So lets rephrase it to: ''the country is faced with a massive crisis''
He wants/fights to open up asap so i dont see how he is running away for anything?

I would have liked to respond to ''A state is burning to the ground'' as well, but unfortunately it did not meet up to the standards within my ''reply worthy'' category.
But in Trumps defence...he did say shooting will start.

I do understand your hatred for Trump (np there), but in the future, please choose your words more carefully as i find it a waste of disk space.

Yes...actually there should be a ''Pro Trump'' topic and an ''Anti Trump'' topic!

U (hopefully) do understand u r being spoon fed by CNN right?
I mean...where are the ''not false claims''?

No...i did at least spot one white looter!

hahahahahahahaha oh my god

Maybe...if u have a minute to spare...can u, in short, tell me whats so funny?

Sure. Two things.

First: 316 deaths/M, on its own, would be the 7th leading cause of death in the United States, killing more than diabetes and less than Alzheimer's. Both of those, and every cause of death ahead of them, are treated as extremely serious public health issues in the United States.

Second, and more important: this **** isn't done yet, dumbass. Comparing 316 deaths/M to other things isn't quite apples to apples because the rates for other causes of death are over an entire year. If COVID-19 deaths double in this country, do you know what happens? COVID becomes the third-leading cause of death in the USA this year, behind only cancer and heart disease. And unlike cancer and heart disease, it's ****ing contagious.

You think cancer wouldn't be a massive health crisis - more so than it already is (consider how active governments are in banning things that cause cancer at the expense of economic gain) - if you could catch it from people around you? Hahahahahaha holy ****

Thanks for sharing your view...so i will share mine as well to you.
Before that, i find it rude if u make things personal...like: ''dumbass'' and all that.

People do not die from CV...they die because they were already weak/old/sick...compare it to the flue if u will.
So...if u put that into perspective...lets say a diabetes patient dies who has CV...he died from CV...if u follow my drift.

My point is this: 99.99% will never experience anything serious when they have CV.
Shutting down the economy therefore is ridiculous.
Let alone all the circles in the parks and plexiglass everywhere.

But hey...if u wanna live in the ''new normal'', all power to u. Me...i prefer the ''old normal''.

And thats what Trump is trying to do here. (to stay on topic)

CV deaths are not CV deaths...u can not even fill Boston Garden with ''pure'' CV deaths. Its all underlying circumstances. So lets agree to at least make that segregation.

Hey man, walk duck, talk duck, etc

Hahahahahahahaha holy ****

Between this and your claim Covid is not a health crisis I must ask, who called the idiot store and ordered you? This place is already full of obtuse thinkers who don’t know how anything works of how to actually process information.

There are already ten of you here and they were here first.

Wow...u really have a long long longggg way to go!
But hey, since im here:

Lets suppose patient ''X'' has: diabetes, cancer and whatnot...and also CV.
On which body count list u think he will end up!?

Lets suppose patient ''X'' is 99 years old.
On which body count list u think he will end up!?

If your theory is that normal, regularly-occurring deaths that would have been marked as diabetes or cancer are now being marked as COVID because the patient happened to catch COVID while dying of something they otherwise would have died of, then...

...how do you explain excess deaths?



This utter moron's working theory here is that cancer deaths and old age deaths just happened to shoot through the ****ing roof completely independently of the global pandemic that's unluckily happening at the same time, lolololololol. No wonder you love Trump, you're even dumber than he is!

Live fact-check of this Dutch right-winger who can't make a single accurate statement about the United States:

1.4% of confirmed cases under the age of 65 in the United States have ended in death

So what u r saying is that there is only place for 10 obtuse thinkers here?
In which case we should really need to redefine the term ''obtuse'' asap.

Just factcheck and give me some numbers/percentages/data...then we will talk.

Can deaf people read Trump's lips or does it all look like O's?

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1266443074198257664

I have never stated that CV isnt working up the bodycount...i was just stating its not deadly by itself...and the deaths...well...they had it coming anyway. (to put it boldly)

Anyway u slice it...its not worth the lockdown.
But hey...if u wanna stay the rest of your life at home, its your life.

That's a pretty idiotic and nitty point if the people who died of it would still be alive today had they not caught it (you may as well argue AIDS isn't a big deal because AIDS doesn't kill people, it just nukes their immune system until anything else can kill them). Which leads you to this ****ing gem:

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

FML...where do these people come from!?
So under 65 u cant have underlying things going on?

Of course its not an accurate statement...but hey...if u can dig up the exact numbers of pure DV deaths...im all ears.
Then lets discuss if its worth the lock down.

It’s good to know that aids isn’t a health problem and we can discount it entirely because people don’t die from aids you silly gooses...

Why did everyone make a big deal out of it...

Look...the difference is...AIDS can kill a perfect healthy person...CV cant. (sort of)
Furthermore the age span is way way different.

But to avoid further discussions...that small percentage of deaths is no reason for like a lockdown or a new normal. Especially not a new normal.

You're looking a hundred thousand dead saying "but it's fine, because they were old or fat or sick". This is an utterly meaningless and pointless distinction unless you think the life of a person with a comorbidity is worth less than the life of a healthy person, which is some real Nazi **** that well named is happy to have in his Special Discourse Forum.