Nope, sorry to disappoint.

No they're not.

They actually are. Someone in my nephew's middle school class in San Diego "identifies as a cat", dresses up as one, and meows a lot. There was some kind of controversy at the school about it, I think someone either put a litter box in the bathroom or joked about doing so.

This is a baldfaced lie.

lol that’s what I’ve been saying this whole time and yet you get mad at me.

Google it, dont take my word for it.

I remember back in the marriage equality debates, there was always a certain type that liked to focus on what they perceived as the most comically silly extensions. Like if we let two guys marry, what's next, a guy marrying their cat? 14 guys all marrying each other? hahahahahlololol.

That we should treat trans people with kindness, respect, acceptance, and inclusion doesn't change whether you want to focus your narrative about these issues on "people who identify as cats". It is just a vapid attempt to make the issues seem less serious by trying to frame it with examples you believe are more egregious.

They've been doing this since the 80's.

Because as you KEEP belittling others for not knowing these 'easy answers' you then later admit in instance after instance, we need to 'ask them' to know.

You refuse to see the contradiction in that. If it was easy to know, we would not have to ask them.

And canj people ask, each and every time to ensure they don't address someone or some group wrongly? Sure. But that is a wholesale change from where we are and will require time, patience and re-enforcement.

People like you, standing on the sidelines mocking them and belittling them with every mistake (while calling for them to not tone police you [aka 'suck it up as I will not stop insulting you'] are the biggest part of the problem.

You uke, are far more likely to drive a moderate person trying to do the right thing and to learn towards the right and into being deliberately obstinate towards trans people, then you are to ever help anyone accept this stuff. You will deny that and mock that, but it is absolutely true whether you know it or not, accept it or not. But then you get more 'bad people' to point at and virtue signal against that way, ...so win! I guess.


I sincerely hope so but seriously doubt. It just seems to be your default with anyone and everyone here the second they saw something or express an idea you disagree with. Attack, belittle, smear and go immediately to challenging their intent.

Of course, you miss the point that is nothing new. But keep going you all are doing great, and everything is going along wonderfully.

I'm not inconvenienced by all this.

I am absolutely fine calling any one Birthing Person. I am fine with white people identifying as black. I am further on what I accept than uke is as he expressed prior he is not yet there on birthing persons or some comment like, some time back.

I am completely libertarian on this stuff. If you are not harming anyone then YOLO and I will respect that.

Glad to see you concede that but i still do not see it as "trite".

Quite frankly the majority of lives, living in organized society is governed by this Social Construct and Social Contract, we submit to.

You would not be wrong to say 'black' 'when it comes to race is not a thing as race is not a thing' in a theoretical argument but if you work in gov't and try to do your job that way where you will not acknowledge it, where it needs to be, then you would be wrong and perhaps committing crime. That is because, despite any validity of the purely theoretical arguments society HAS accepted, within the Social Construct, that race is a thing and black is a thing. Individuals can dissent, but society as a whole has accepted it regardless. SOciety can only do that within a Social Construct/Contract, otherwise it does not matter.

I think the majority of society exists in that, type, area of Social Construct/Contract. We concede communally to things and by virtue of that, they become 'accepted', 'norm', and sometimes 'law'.

This is what I've been told by my sister and her 13 year old son. But I'm sure you have inside information to every school in San Diego to know it isn't true.

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Either you or relatives are lying probably both.

They lying. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinfo...oint-rcna51439

Ah I see your confusion. Some things can have completely obvious general trends, while also having exceptions. It is a very easy answer that a trans man who is a parent will generally speaking identify as a father, not a mother. It is shocking that this had to be explained to you. However, it is also the case that there are sometimes exceptions where you don't know if someone goes by male or female pronouns, don't know if they go by father or mother, or perhaps they take some non-standard approach (for instance, non-gender people who use they pronouns might not want to use a gendered parental moniker) in which case its fine to ask if there is some concocted situation where you need to know before you've been given the information.

Lol. Plenty of people - including you!!!!! - tend to attack and smear and belittle their opponents when debating politics on anonymous internet forums with entrenched antagonists. It is a pretty profound misread if you are going to seriously doubt that they can respond with empathy, respect, and consideration in "real life" situations. Heck, my MO with you isn't even the same as my MO with a lot of other people in the confines of this same forum, let alone moving outside of it. Just a terrible misread all round.

What an odd coincidence that the person who wants to refer to trans people as "it" - and denies this is dehumanizing - is the same person just totally coincidentally aligned with standard GOP lies.

Im curious Uke for your opinion on this . Please go to the 6:10 second mark

My opinion mental illness

Walker has CTE. It's a shame you can't actually diagnose it until someone is dead, but he's taken way to many hits to the head. Both in football and MMA.

I don't agree with Maher. It's true that Republicans prefer Trump / Walker crazy to woke crazy, but that's not an explanation for why they support crazy people. Republicans could just run people who are sane and competent and wipe the floor with Democrats.

So why they don’t do it ?

Ah yes, this is the third time you've brought up the example of the these comically exaggerated prosthetic breast. Weird.

Much like "people who identify as cats", I think that focusing your discussion of trans issues around what you believe to be outlandish fringe cases is really weak. Humans are weird and there are going to be bizarre novelties in any endeavour. The choice we get to make is whether we let those distract us from the important work of building an inclusive society for trans people.

Personally, I have no idea why this person is doing that. You seem to have decided mental illness, but why? Couldn't it be someone from the left, or the right, trying to make a point, to see how far they can push things? I have no idea, and I really don't care. We should - loudly - proudly - readily - welcome trans teachers in our classrooms. That the internet is making a meme out of someone putative trans person they find going "too far" doesn't touch that.

Uke Master is so dumb that I don't even know where to start lol.

Because they don't exist. Republicans run on unpopular platforms but they cater to small isolated communities of people who have zero desire to meet anyone outside their little bubble.

There's a reason Republicans don't want to get rid of the electoral college, and how they try to suppress any vote in large population centers.

If elections were actually held where all qualified voters can vote, the democrats would have a super majority in the senate ever year. A simple majority would be an aberration.