I have also see a lot of right wing anxieties about this. They sound awesome, I should take my kids to one if there is one locally.

Go for a donkey show they'll get more out of it.

Which Rococo acknowledged later he got wrong.

there is only one post and it is ME asking him the question. The only question posed by me in that post (in spoilers) is about Roberts and the Ways and Means case.

he conflated it with another discussion about Thomas which he acknowledged later.

I doubt very much Rococo will maintain your lie and shield on this one, but on this forum you never know.

Again for the lie exposed read the original post in the spoiler. which was the entirety of what jjjou replied to and is SPECIFICALLY about Roberts and the Way and Means case...

Curious if people think it is ok or wrong for other teams to withdraw from playing this team due to safety concerns?



Transgender high school volleyball player appears to feature spike that injured opponent in highlight reel
The opponent's school board voted to forfeit all games against the transgender athlete's school



A North Carolina school district voted last month to forfeit all high school girls' volleyball games against a rival school which rosters a transgender athlete.

The transgender athlete from Highlands High School spiked a ball into the face of a girl from Hiwassee Dam High School who reportedly suffered head and neck injuries - the Cherokee County Board of Education forfeited the contests "due to safety concerns."

A YouTube video was posted on Oct. 1 that appeared to be the athlete's highlight reel - high school athletes often make reels for college recruitment....

...David Payne, Hiwassee Dam's athletic director, supported the decision, and Vice Chair Jeff Martin felt that "there is a competitive advantage and a safety concern for certain teams — it’s not the same for all teams."

Payne believed "a statement needed to be made and that it's unfair and unsafe" while also saying there were "mixed feelings" from players and parents about facing Highlands in the future....

Volleyball is already played mixed-sex so that's not really the greatest example of a problematic sport

I do not think I have seen a sport, played at lower levels or recreationally that does not have mixed sex versions. they also typically have slightly different rule sets, due to that, as well, for safety and competitive reasons.

So I am not seeing what point you are making Lucky? This is a competitive HS volleyball league, which you do not see mixed-sex in, that i am aware of.

I suppose I'm just not that sympathetic to the potential dangers that can occur from playing volleyball with mixed sexes, even with the incident that occured in this case.

While republicans across the US used trans people as wedge culturally issues to get elected, focusing on issues just like Cuepee does, we actually got some great progress: first trans person elected to a state legislature: https://www.npr.org/2022/11/09/11354...james-roesener

Do you have some kind of google alert set up for these stories?

Again you are struggling to understand the situation and point here.

This is not a 'mixed sex' game or team if i stick to your biological reference. It was delineated by sex prior for 'females' only. Now that 'gender' has split off from sex, in a way it was not considered prior, and a person can be of the same 'gender' while also being of the opposite 'biological sex', they are bringing those considerable advantages, of their biological sex to bear against those females whose gender and biology match, which can very much put those women at greater risk of serious injury.

Your point, if you are expressing it accurately applies equally to this situation below and the trans girl in that instance doing what we would do in games to try and take out the best players on opposing teams by tackling them in ways that we knew had the most potential to really hurt them and force them to slow down or sit out the rest of the game.

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Would you have sympathy for the smaller girl here if hurt badly by a tackle from the trans girl?

and now we're back to spamming the thread with the same photos over and over

Cuepee,

I think rugby is a much better example than volleyball.

I was speaking to your underlying logic.

Sports like Volleyball and Rugby were both played historically and rightly according to a biological sex differences and safety was a big component of that.

Now as we see gender considerations over take biological ones, the 'safety' issues return to the fore.


If your point is 'I don't have much sympathy for any female suffering an injury because in SOME instances in these sports they play them in 'mixed sex' play', then it is hard to see how your logic and lack of sympathy would not apply to rugby or soccer or any sport, where historically men can and do use increased physicality to try and beat competitors they feel have a weakness to that.

For instance, if a team is known is known to be full of finesse and skilled players who are not that tough, the opposition will often create a game plan to paly them in the most punishing and physical way possible. To hurt them, to slow them, to make their best players head to the bench and not return.

I struggle to see how you would distinguish your position as we move between sports other than some very arbitrary 'ok, fine, now soccer (or rugby) is doing enough harm to women that I think it should stop'. It's almost as if your position is ok with 'X' injuries but not ok with 'Y' as opposed to just addressing the premise for the injuries and addressing that??

THE RUGBY PHOTO RETURNS!!!!!!!!

This is a good lesson on the state of algorithmic social media. If one follows a particular niche - girls highschool volleyball, say - then the algorithms are going to show you lots of girls highschool volleyball and it is pretty rare that this topic intersects with trans stories. But that isn't what Cuepee is following and not what his Facebook or whatever is algorithmically showing him. What instead we get is collection of the most extreme possible examples from across the US and around the world where a trans person is a villain (it's in their highlight reel!!) and a cis person is the victim. Cuepee's source - fox news - deliberately curates stories like this to support republicans in their anti-trans election strategy, but Cuepee likely didn't see this first by browsing Fox News. If the algorithms ever become conscious we know their first conscious statement will be the observation that Cuepee loves stores where cis people are villians due to trans people, will show him that fox news article, and Cuepee will reliably spam it here.

lol at people who hate demonstrable fact that definitively counters so many of the factually incorrect theoretical arguments being pushed in this space.

Only in the trans debate are 'examples' that prove the point wrong, because some people do not want the point proven.

Sorry but 'safety' is a very real issue, in so many sports when it comes to the biological advantages a trans woman can bring to the playing field against a cis female. And one picture is worth 10,000 words in that regard.

There are some very loud groups of far left activists pushing that are no such physical differences in the biology of trans females and cis females and they are actively attacking anyone who would say otherwise and especially trying to attack Universities and use the worst tactics of Cancel Culture to punish those that would teach or allow discussions that such physical differences exist.

That is very dangerous for society. Especially if universities, for the sake of peace and to avoid being labelled as allowing trans phobic speech, acquiesce.

You don't think Cupes is actively seeking this content out? Probably runs a daily google for "trans + sports"

I saw this story on Twitter myself but i subscribe to various terfs.

like all weird zealots, they have more material than anyone on their "hated" topic..

Can you cite anyone ITT who has advocated this? If not ITT, can you name the biggest and most prominent of those "very loud groups" that you are referring to?

I'm asking because most people, like myself, who support trans girls playing on most school teams according to their gender aren't suggesting there is "no physical differences in the biology".

I'm relatively agnostic between Cuepee doing this and Cuepee following/being shown a bunch of people on social media who do this. Regardless, this is exactly the kind of trans anxieties Fox News etc are deliberately trying to propagate when they write stories like the one Cuepee showed. Media is a pretty crazy place in 2022.

Don't give Trolly a serious reply.

He knows how the algorithms work but that does not serve him so he replaces it with lies and smears which is always his preference.

The fact is, if you have clicked on top stories like all the Lia Thomas 'trans woman' stories, then the algorithm will pop in to your feed any other similar type hot trending stories.

Add to that, in Twitter you might click to read one story but the first reply to that story might be another such story that you see whether you cared to or not.

Right, this is exactly as I described. Because you are a high consumer of [trans person victimizes cis people] stories, particularly when it comes to highschool girls and sports, the algorithm is providing you a steady stream popping in your feed. When GOP or Fox News (but I repeat myself) choose to endlessly focus on this exact framing and narrative, we have plenty of pushing of curation of this content, and the algorithms do their work to endlessly pop that content into your feed.

And you lap it all up and spam it here.

You know my criteria uke, before I take any question from you seriously and reply.

To what ends? What could i provide you that regardless of what it says you will not mock the place it is posted, or hand wave it away as small and meaningless groups, etc?

Give me an example of what you would agree are 'very loud groups' who are big and prominent that you won't laugh at and hand wave as meaningless?

I've provided prior (upthread) video of a biology professor, on a panel simply stating there is a 'biological difference we should all be comfortable acknowledging and admitting and that should not be controversial' who was then met with being shouted down and called a nazi and transphobe for spreading such hate. There were reports later of student organized pushes to fire that professor. This is the tactic of attacking basic truths and those who would share them to the point of making it just unpalatable for anyone else to do. A warning shot across the bow of biology professors that they should pick their battles and not air those truths in public forums.

Nope that is just your lie and the way you need to believe things. Say more about you than me.

CLick on one story and others will then be forwarded over time to see if you will engage with it. Even if you don't similar type stories will continue to pop up time to time. And as long as you click on them occasionally, you will be tested to see if they can up your engagement.

For instance i clicked on a Youtube video, re Orca's, when there was a sighting here in BC this past summer and I still get Orca and Whale and other sea animal videos being teased in my feed.

So no uke, your lie, as always, does not work.

(i am curious if you or Trolly ever wonder why you get called out for lies so often?)