Fair enough. But please demonstrate how his ideas are harming real people.

I certainly believe that some of your ideas are harming real people. Like the use of puberty blockers.

Yes it’s called immaturity .

+1
Btw how do we judge a deficient person with 50 years age but 10 years old mental age ?

Agree with all of this .

Society becomes scared of calling a black cat a black cat …..

You should feel foolish for engaging in the first place with patent bad-faith posting.

How has my posting been bad faith?

Only use two genders get arrested in Canada

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...ly-two-genders

A real christian prefers the nasb and the esv translations. Also the original hebrew, greek and aramaic texts. Even the latin vulgate is preferable to your bizarre suggestion. Not a single biblical scholar would suggest that the king james version helps you understand biblical prophecy as much as the esv or the nasb. The king james version isn't a bible, it's a poetry book that mimics the holy bible.

Real Christian?

We know that gay people do sometimes get confused by gender. Prepubescent kids who identify as trans have been found in studies to later not identify as trans, and most of them then identify as gay. I don't have any reason to believe this is because of "gender ideology," and I don't have any reason to believe that the kids don't eventually figure it out.

But are you suggesting we shouldn't provide any gender affirming care (therefore harming trans youth) for fear of confusing a gay youth?

My personal opinion is that the king james bible is a satanic document that is not the real bible. I don't think we should be corrupting our hot 18-24 year old men's minds with that garbage. I'm ok if some old guy reads it since most men age like milk.
And if you were going to buy a king james "bible" I would go with one of those goat skin bibles not something from the dollar store.

Bobo, you're correct in your assertion that defining a woman is not a good thing to "dominate" the discussion. For reasons that are hard to discuss in a soundbite or a 1 paragraph post we already know that sex and gender are more complicated than what is being suggested and certainly real things. It's KNOWN. like ganstaman said just look some of this stuff up on wikipedia or whatever instead of arguing from a point of ignorance.

Was arrested for trespassing. Dishonest much? I like how I can randomly open this thread sporadically and find a completely dishonest/ridiculous take within seconds. And it works every time. Never change 2+2

How many times do they have to show you this is what they want before you see?

So how do we do that without getting scolded by uke?

I see no good reason for social policy to have any definitions related to sex or gender. This is especially true if the only thing the government has to go on is what each individual says is their gender.

No one here has been trying to prove that anyone "doesn't exist".
That's just a ridiculous and deliberately misleading description of the conversation.

Given that trans identification is higher than ever, it only stands to reason that more gay kids are identifying as trans but I don't know why you think it's figured out eventually. I would assume that some don't, transition, and continue living their lives as trans.

Uke wanted to know what sort of harms are caused by gender ideology so I pointed one out. I still don't know what "gender affirming care" is supposed to be. Given that gender isn't real I would suggest at the very least some different terminology.

I believe they are generally treated as incompetent to stand trial and in need of a legal guardian.

sex and gender are two different things that should not be confused. They are both real and indisputably so. gender identity is one aspect of gender. Does this help?

Why would you claim that gender is "indisputably real"? It is very much in dispute.

It's not. There is no doubt that as a society most people are labeled as male or female. When you play poker, you often play with poker chips that are representations of money. When you lose chips or win chips at the poker table it's basically the same thing as money. But what is money? Fiat money is basically imaginary but it has value to us because of the faith society has in its value. So your playing with chips that arbitrarily represent money according to the fancies of some decider in the casino with little actual value that represent worthless pieces of paper that society has given a high value to. If we didn't have paper money the whole concept might seem absurd.

But if you spend all your "money" on "poker chips" and lose all your poker chips you might suddenly find the consequences are very real. you could become homeless , lose your girlfriend owe unplayable debts etc.

In some hyper idealized society that is vastly different than are own, sure maybe there isn't "gender". but it's very real with very real consequences. We label people men or women or in some cases something else and those labels have real consequences just as "money" does.

Spaceman is indisputably the best poster here and it’s not terribly close.

If I asked you to define the essential characteristics of a chair, you would have a similar problem.

4 legs? Often but not always.

A back? Often but not always.

Designed for sitting? Sure, but so are a million other things that we don't call chairs.

On some level, "chairs" are just a subset of things that we sit on that we have decided to call chairs.

Not really. My question was not about information, it how do we refer to one or the other without being considered offensive.

maybe just stop being worried about offending people, I offend people all the time.

If you're worried about consequences, you'll never face consequences if you act reasonably.
Where I see a lot of guys get in trouble here is that they assume they are the most smartest person in a conversation, that they are special subconsciously, and they don't believe the person they are talking to feels the way they said they do.

For example if someone says dam there are way too many white guys here, just accept that they genuinely think there are too many white guys here.

If a woman tells you you're being rude accept that she thinks you're being rude.

If a transgender person says you're comments are transphobic just accept that they think they are.

Most people wouldn't say anything about things that are not bothering them and they are usually being genuine.

If you treat people with respect you won't actually get in trouble.

don't live your life being afraid of offending random groups, it's weird and selfish.