Not only in the woods. But sure, anonymous sex sounds fun (apart from the high chances of STD part). When I was in my teens and 20s, I would have been in the woods every night if it would have been available.

Rickroll that's interesting to me. In my story I was pointing out that I feel like people who don't understand gay sexuality or women's sexuality wouldn't understand transgender sexuality because it seems more fluid, varied and complex to me.

I was also giving a cliffs of what I find sexually appealing;

1. A guy who has a strong desire for me. I want guys who wants me.
2. A guy who is a gentle and long lasting lover. A visually appealing man who looks good in a suit but not into guys who are pretty.
Other things you'd have to read into.

But in regards to penis my feelings are the exact opposite, if there isn't a penis there isn't a sexual attraction. I could see myself in a relationship with someone who identifies and acts certain ways including effeminately if there is a penis.

No idea. Pretty much all of them I have seen in person (of the ones I knew were trans) still look too masculine for me to be attracted to them. I'm generally attracted to women who look very feminine, and very curvy, with large breasts, hips, and butts (women who the average man considers too fat). I have watched some porn featuring pre-op transwomen who looked very feminine and found it interesting, but I don't think I would want a LTR with someone who had a penis. I don't know anything about what post-op trans genitalia look (or feel) like.

I know what tinder is. It's not an even thing, for a variety of reasons it's not a good dating environment for the average cisgender male. Women in their 40's would be a lot easier to meet for most men somewhere other than tinder. It's possible you've taken bad photos of yourself, etc but more likely you'd have more success irl...

chill rob let's say hypothetically, I showed up to your house and said hey let's go to the woods. and so we go together deep into the woods. I am in full trap mode; my hair my foundation my makeup lipstick looks flawless.
My nails have been professionally done they are painted white with cute designer red hearts in the center. I'm wearing a cute dress, panties and boots.

Hypothetically speaking do you think you could get turned on if we made out?
or just the fact that I have a penis ruins everything for you?

I have no idea what "an even thing" means here, and the other things you say are true but have nothing to do with the point I was making bringing up Tinder, so it seems like we're talking past each other here.

It seems like in this case I wouldn't know you had a penis, but if you looked attractive enough that I wanted to kiss you, then I imagine I would get turned on (unless you were a really bad kisser).

You are saying "evenon tinder women in there 40's are only looking for a long term relationship"

What I am saying is women in their 40's are more likely to be looking for a casual relationship off tinder. So the idea that tinder is some extremely conducive environment for women in their 40's to be looking for casual relationships is wrong.

You know, it seems unfair to criticize gay people for their sex lives when it has nothing to do with you. And then blame their sex lives for a detrimental global, pervasive disease as if other factors are not present and contributing. Like saying the health care in Sweden is too expensive but not being Swedish
This really is a throw back to the times of yore and madonna

Looking at the numbers of gay partners vs straight partners and who has what killer virus will always serve a purpose and also have limitations, but what's funny here is

the displacing onto straight women in a transgender thread all because gay people are having sex, and maybe even more sex

I am sorry that I evidently make you feel inferior, but there's not much I can do about that, is there now?

More likely not but maybe? I'm a bit out of my depths in all these anonymous sex discussions - married my highschool gf and been together 20 years now - but if we decided to do an open marriage type situation I presume I'd mostly sleep with cis women but would be open to experiment with all genders/sexes I think. I sort of naively feel I would find the experience being with a trans women more similar to that of a cis guy than to a cis women at least purely from a sex perspective. Can I try it once and get back to you

the STD part is what concerned me too for a very long time. I have been obsessed with STDs so I would consider myself to be an expert in STDs. ask me anything.

my knowledge contains what can you get, the likelihood of getting it, what to look out for what to do and what not to.

I'm vaccinated against Hepatitis B but need to refreshed that.

I didn't get that first but I think I got it now.

that is discounting transwomen where you can't tell a difference even in bed.

that brings up the question how many transwomen are fully transformed/operated. not that it is a given but I get it is a desired by many transwomen.

I certainly haven't been criticizing anyone for their sex lives. The person who came the closest was washoe, but even he wasn't directly criticizing any sex, just getting a bit too worked up about AIDS.

I don't know what you mean by the bolded above; displacing what?

Are constructed vaginas really that good?

from what i know, which is nothing, the about 5 persons I heard were really happy about it.
that should mean it is very good imo.
I also heard it can come to complications but the persons I heard didn't have that.

that doesn't mean any transwomen should do it of course, I would even advice against it, only if the person really wants it. it's a really big step afterall with risks and all. all I know is that many transwomen want to change all the way.

2 people I heard it from to give you examples:

all with "bottom surgery"
I think most of know these 2 women,
you might not know that they are transwomen and then sex would be just as with a cis women.

I have no idea who those people are.

When a guy gets to that point in the proceeding, how good would it have to be?

Google Jazz Jennings and Kim Petras. both have wiki sites.


if you really want to know read this coming from transwomen themselves:
https://www.quora.com/What-percentag...bottom-surgery

Not that great to be worth a try; very good for a continuing relationship, which was asked about by SBryce. But my question was in response to washoe saying "you can't tell a difference", so I was curious if this is actually true.

I woulda guessed Demi Lavato and Britney

If their 18 and Happy all the power to girl power

On a related topic, my understanding is there recently has been an explosion of "trans" porn, which normally involves a trans female with a heterosexual presenting male.

And my understanding is the main market for this content is men who identify as heterosexual. I am sure a lot of heterosexual men only want to have relationships with cis women, and that is fine. But based on porn viewing habits there does seem to be a sizable % attraction among some segment of heterosexual men and trans women. I think we could, and probably should, get to a place where this is viewed as an acceptable relationship.

I just am not sure the best way to get there is to encourage or even facilitate children, especially prepubescent children, having irreversible drug or surgery regimens. I suspect this would result in more harm than good in totality.

They do not do anything irreversible to children or young teens ever, there are multiple safe guards and psychologists and doctors involved, 99% of people who do gender confirmation surgery never regret it. And that number will approach 100 pretty soon. There are doctors who have performed gender confirmation surgery on hundreds of people and not one of those people has expressed any regret. See earlier discussions about the dropping regret rates and increasing acceptance of transgender people in society.

Browser was correct in his(?) assertion that the acceptance of lgbt people is like interracial couples 50 years ago.
Transgender women with hetero males and also effeminate males with other males will become just as accepted as white males with hispanic or black girlfriends are today.

That is very sweet. I wish I could have married my high school sweetheart. A genuine Congratulations.