I didn't think washoe was going to get banned for his views. I thought he was going to get banned for the most common reason -- refusing to knock it the **** off after repeated warnings from the mod, and then arguing with mod about whether he should knock it the **** off.

OK. That's funny.

I'm not sure that I buy this logic. Millions of people believe that the election was stolen. I'm not at all convinced that it is important that their viewpoints be represented on this site.

What percentage of male posters on this site do you imagine voluntarily watched a video in the last week that featured a naked man? Exposed dicks, in and of themselves, are not the issue for posters like washoe.

Cliffs: I don't care that much about the specific commercial and f**lching doesn't appeal to me.

I can recall personally being uncomfortable with pictures of guys kissing. A long time ago, when I got into trouble, after having gone through my original two therapists and a social worker without avail, I later got a new therapist who was a specialist, and he was the first person I ever talked to about my sexuality in an honest way.Note I was so terrified of my own sexual thoughts that I did not describe them honestly to multiple therapists. He was gay as well and I often described things to him in ways which would be considered homophobic by some. But regardless of my low opinion of myself and other gay men, who I often would describe as not being manly enough, not realizing at the time the blatant internalized homophobia. Internalized homophobia is a big problem.

Which is why we need more images of guys kissing. So that people can be more confident in themselves...

I don't see how you could draw any conclusions about anything from that commercial, it's one commercial. But then the conversation veered into felching territory , and it was implied that gay guys have some disgusting habits that might be dangerous to learn, but actually gay sex is on average less disgusting than straight sex. Straight men are often nasty and unclean.
As has already been pointed out you can't take a weird fetish and ascribe it to all gay men as if to say there is some new weird invading sexuality. I could do the same thing.

Straight men dress up like dogs and watch two guys lick peanut butter off womens hairy anomias. is that really something we want our young impressionable gay men to be exposed to??
Like seriously I recently saw a commercial where this guy was licking this woman's leg and then he noticed she had a hair on her otherwise leg so he clipped the hair off her otherwise perfect leg and then he put the hair into his mouth. It was wtf but presumably she was so hot he wanted to eat the leg hair or something but to anyone watching who wasn't perving on the model it was disgusting.



So like for me, I have my own sexual interests that are my own.

I was just looking at this dress and found it to be exciting and pleasing to look at, especially since the color is great for the models skin tone, she wears it almost as well as I would( ) and was imagining wearing her wardrobe ( which in practical terms is too inaccessible for me to accurately emulate)



I was thinking about a tall guy I recently met at a wedding and imagining him undressing me wearing that dress as I looked at it. I have a strong imagination and feel his strong hands looking for straps or zippers as he kisses me and taking it off with great force, stupidly telling me that it's a nice dress and I look so hot.

I imagine him still in his suit sans jacket pinning my naked body against a wall as he kissed me and then leading my hand into his pants and then motioning me into bed.

I imagine him letting me help him undress and seeing his beautiful 7 inch cock. I imagine him being very gentle and me on top riding him feeling him deep inside me , feeling his desire for me. I imagine him coming and then I imagine him doing me again, and again. 4 times in a row.

I imagine him kissing me goodbye with his penis lightly touching my waist and giving me his credit card and asking me to buy lingerie and take pictures while he is at work.


I imagine many many things like this.

But I would never imagine felching because it doesn't appeal to me and it's kind of a turn off based on the kind of sex I do like to have. Like I kind of feel like after a hot guy comes over you whether it's on your chest or your butt or your face, I feel like at that point it no longer belongs to him teehee. It would be weird if he was like no now I want my own come back. I would be like no it's mine!

Well sure. But straight males aren't watching porn for the dudes, they're just an unfortunate component.

I'm going to guess over 50%

Did politics get merged with Penthouse letters when I went out today?

Clicks have been down and something needed to be done.

I definitely think straight men's number of sex partners is much lower than that of gay men.

Most straight men would love to have a much larger number of partners, but most women are not interested in anonymous sex.

If we assume Naturalistic Evolution, the answer is certainly "It doesn't matter at all."

Given Naturalistic Evolution, absolutely nothing has any more (or any less) value than the vomit a dog spews on the carpet. Our thoughts and feelings are nothing but basically brain barf.

Since I do not believe in Naturalistic Evolution, and instead believe that all people are made in the image of God, then I know I am commanded to help the needy.

That there are inconsistent/ hypocritical Christians doesn't negate the larger point I was making.

The above questions are only relevant if naturalism is false.

Once we clear that hurdle, I would be delighted to answer your questions.

Stopped reading after the bolded.

yeah this is what i was talking about how first the gay community got wrongfully victimized regarding aids to the point where straight people who had the disease kept it secret because they were worried everyone would say it's because they are gay

but it's absolutely objective truth that homosexuals on average have more partners and are generally of a casual nature

there's been many studies on this and anecdotally it checks out as I know a number of the married gay couples I know still mix it up with introducing outsiders or going out solo - they are "sneaking about" as it's all sanctioned and what they agreed to do and it works for them

I don't know first hand a single straight couple who does this, I'm sure I do, but they at least aren't public about it

it came with massive disappointment as an impressionable rickroll in his yut as he searched out adventure to learn that such things as dark rooms and glory holes truly do exist, but you'll never find a woman involved in either

but none of this takes away that the real factor wasn't the amount of partners but rather than anal sex is where the overwhelming majority of transmissions via sexual contact take place - in fact, nearly all the cases of HIV being spread through porn was through anal speciality film sets as well

to delink HIV to homosexuality is just not good science and it does genuine harm

This!!!

That is NOT why Lagtight called you a pervert. If Browser allows me to, I can site the post in RGT in which Lagtight called you a pervert. It had nothing to do with your opinions about homosexuality.

Well said.

This post should be a STICKY* imo.

*No innuendo jokes please.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnis...n-power-women/

I'm going to try to get this thread back on track. Here is a TERF article I read earlier that argues that some misogynists just use trans activism as a way to mask their misogynism (amongst other things). I thought it was an ok read.

The vast majority of hiv carriers are straight. It actually does harm to straight people to think of it as a gay only disease because it can affect them. In America the association between hiv and gays begins with victim blaming and ends with most lgbt people living in urban areas due to discrimination that overlapped with a wave in the 80's in those same urban areas which resulted in more victim blaming.

I agree with you on all your thoughts here, but is the bolded really true in the US? I'm sure it is worldwide because so many are straight people in Africa.

https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overv...nic-minorities

there's also been studies that seem to believe that since homosexuality is so frowned upon in Africa and in fact illegal in many of the countries that a big chunk of the men with aids in Africa are not actually straight as they claim

ugh, I got aids and I'm also going to jail now? can't imagine many would volunteer that info willingly

and speak of the devil this came up in my youtube feed

Is there another organization that most US hospitals report their disease statistics to that you use for your reference information instead of the CDC? Or do you believe medical statistics are simply unknowable?

No, we'll leave that for the other forum. I'm going to delete the other references to this past incident. .

Probably unknowable. And if it is knowable, the CDC would only tell us what it wants us to know. Or literally just make things up.

In my opinion, trusting any government agencies reports about anything is extremely naive.

Straight men and women have been engaging in "open marriages" forever. They are called swingers and there is an entire community set up with swingers clubs and neighborhood get togethers. While obviously not the behavior of the majority, it is far from being a rare occurrence in the straight community.

I just don't really know what to say about the idea that you will never find a woman involved in glory holes. That's just incorrect. Glory holes with women on the "servicing side" are common.

Anal sex is without a doubt a major transmission factor for HIV which is why the gay men community has the greatest share of cases. But it's not homosexuality per se that is linked to HIV transmission,it's the anal sex act. Just as the sexual orientation of an intravenous drug user sharing needles isnt a factor in the transmission of HIV, it's the injections. So HIV transmission is an important health concern for the gay male community but that should not generate fear of gay people in general in the public at large.

Most straight men would like to have more sexual partners, ok.
This is part of what I was implying in my posts that it's very hard to understand gender identity or lgbt sexualities if you don't even bother to understand women's sexuality at all, the supposed objects of your desire.
Many men, before you get to "disapprove" or the "secretly find it gross", the underlying problem is that they don't respect any sexuality that is not their exact own, and that category is not just lgbt but also womens. valid sexuality revolves entirely around the pleasure and sense of accomplishment you get from your dick into a vagina. They've thought a lot about those ten minutes but haven't thought about women's sexual needs at all, let alone lgbt sexual needs.

The truth is there are a lot of women who aren't having their sexual needs met and a lot of guys uninterested in learning because those frustrations aren't considered a problem. It's only seen as a societal problem if straight men aren't having their sexual needs fulfilled.

So i'm sorry you feel like you don't have enough sexual partners, maybe spend 5 minutes thinking about peoples sexual needs other than your own.