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Originally Posted by Cuepee
I think not engaging in solutions to this will result in far more future problems.
it is a tiny percent of participants now so few people care but as the numbers grow this will become prevalent.
And it is harder to make changes the longer you let something run.
But I agree it is a tough discussion to have as you get people like Slighted who will take any attempt to discuss it and just reflexively label it 'hate' when it is exactly the opposite, at least for me.
I am very libertarian in my views of people's view of themselves and how they choose to live. But that does not also mean we cannot address how a person who was a man yesterday, did no surgery, took no hormones, and simply identifies as a woman today, gets to interact within women's sport.
it is hate. especially when you try to sweep up people like caster in it, who have done nothing to alter their body. that's like saying someone who was born too tall shouldn't be allowed in the NBA because they were just too tall.
the whole thing just yet another conservative boogeyman. there is no evidence that it will become a "prevalent" problem. the inso-level guys will cut their penises off to dominate women's sports take is the equivalent transwomen are only trans to harass/molest girls in bathroom take..
it's not about any kind of "fairness". sports have never been and were never intended to be "fair". you think a 5'8" 145 lb guy didn't become the next big NBA star just because he didn't work hard enough? just didnt want it badly enough? didn't put in enough hours?
it's not about any misguided "health and safety of the other athletes" either, because if these people that were that concerned about health and safety then they would be protesting against the sports themselves that are incredibly unsafe and have long term disastrous effects on young people like football, hockey, girls lacrosse(without helmets), and all of the combat sports.
it's about hate and fear.