I wonder what percentage of guys would date trans women but not date men? Am I wrong that it is a low percentage or have things changed with the younger generation?

now we're attacking people for not using a word that isn't even clearly the default and proper word, just what a bunch of people on the internet use so clearly that's the only way and every other word is bigoted evil

ffs you should listen to yourself man, you've lost touch with reality fighting so many meaningless and inconsequential battles, this is like arguing over whether boat, aces over 8s, or full house are the appropriate words to use in holdem

I'm trying to read your post and what I said back to back, and I find it jarring.
I don't recall saying any of the bolded things. I generally will inform people who don't appear aware of what the (yes) standard terminology is, but that isn't a suggestion that every other word is bigoted evil!

lol "attacked." People are making up absurd new terminology for no reason and we're laughing at them for doing that. Enough with the victim complex.

biological women is not a made up term, you've just lost touch with reality to the point where you actually believe it is though

Trolly is referring to a previous time when Cuepee was using "BioWomen". I don't prefer "biological women", but it is certainly less bad than that!

Biowomen is the correct term.

No one has to write in full biological when bio will do. Short forms are a thing.

I know, I know, you prefer I not use the short form and you think your opinion is the only one that matters and that you can bully it thru and get others to comply. I got news for you. I don't play that.


Biowomen is way better than writing out biological women as it is efficient.

uke is the guy who needs to try and go and find the sleepy, inactive generally more ignorant than any '...ist' and poke and insult them. When they then get insulted and ended up polarized as a new addition to the culture war he pats himself on the back for finding and outing a 'bad guy' who was otherwise hidden.

The far left is infested with that type of deliberate agitators who stir stuff up where is was not prior and then move on, actually leaving the communities they were Oobooing on behalf of, now in a worse position and in a fight, they did not pick. Then uke has a lot of sympathy for them when the far right unites and starts to win via punitive legislation and other measures.

Of course uke shoulders none of the actually fall out, and he gets to give his good tongue scolding, so all is good in his world view.

I wonder if the concept of 2 genders is just a cultural thing. Thailand has the concept of a third gender instead of transgender. So would someone growing up in Thailand feel like they weren't "born the 'wrong' sex" but instead they always had a place to belong in?

no he wasn't, he was directly chastising someone for writing biological women

and even if he somehow were then it wouldn't matter anything because this below is accurate


you guys are doing nothing more than bullying and picking fights over nothing instead of even attempting to have a genuine discussion you start calling people bigots because they asked a question or didn't phrase it the way you wish they did

lol, you know full well it's "biowomen" that we're laughing at. Who are you even trying to fool with this.

Yeah but you also laughed at the idea of a cis man being worried about non disclosure from a transwoman, and that thing sort of actually happens you know.

https://www.centeronhalsted.org/tran...ngtips0909.pdf

"Do I have to disclose the fact that I am trans to my partner?
NO. Plenty of non‐trans people do not have discussions about their gender or their bodies prior
to having sex. However, while you do not owe it to anybody to talk about your genitals prior to a
sexual encounter, it may be safer to do so. It may also be less awkward or uncomfortable in
general. So it may be ideal to have a conversation about the type of sex you would like to have
beforehand. If this is simply not your style or not an option, that is okay. In terms of safety,
there are advantages and disadvantages to disclosing in various situations. Your decision may be
different depending on the person you are talking with and how sensitive or aware they seem. "

i never entered that thread

the text i quoted was to someone else who wrote biological women

if it was a moment to have a laugh an inside thread joke then sure, but it wasn't, instead it was telling him he was wrong to write that

My brother in Christ, the "biowomen" thing is an inside joke you should be familiar with by now but if you somehow missed it I assure you it is indeed an inside joke.

If a language only has two words for color then those words are always something that translates to "white" and "black", and if there is a third term then that term is always "red".

Gender might be something like that.

That makes sense to me. Language and thought are closely connected.

chinese really struggle with pronouns since they basically don't have any, you'll regularly see chinese people incorrectly using he/she on the wrong sex because it's not something they even think about

I cannot agree with that trans dating tip sheet. If you are a guy who can pass as a woman is it okay to go down on a lesbian? If that is not okay why would this be ok? The reason that most non trans people don't talk about gender before sex is because there is no room for misinterpretation. Do we really expect people to ask every potential sexual partner, "you aren't trans by any chance are you?".

I quite enjoy that in trying to troll me you end up looking ignorant to everyone else.

Me either. Some in this thread have actually suggested that.

In the previous thread, we really highlighted the narrative obsession over fake trans people who were hurting innocent cis people in any number of contexts. But this topic is a new twist on that tired theme. The targets of the rhetorical critique are real trans people who fake being cis, once again hurting the innocent cis people and causing them trauma. Actually, now that I type it out, that really isn't very different.

My suggestion is that you all give it the old college try and authentically raise an actual issue that hurts trans people for once.

Yeah, I guess it’s progress that these guys now admit transgender people are a real thing.

Awesome. Lets ramp this up both in quantity and volume of posting for yet another 10 pages so you can really get euphoric.

I suggest a cut and paste format for efficiency.

It is the #1 tactic by the far left and people like uke and Trolly.

uke cries incessantly if anyone tries to 'tone police' him but at the same time nothing bothers him more than when he cannot control others speech and thoughts or at least bully or smear them so that he gets his way, and they change their language. Every '...ism' is on the table for uke (and Trolly) if they think the threat of the smear will make you change and they can impose their opinion on yours.


So in uke and Trolly speak 'cis' as a contraction is just fine.

Why? Because it is a good short form. Why write out cisgender each and every time when a short form like 'cis', will do.

However, in their opinion, 'bio' is not a good contraction for biological women and each and every time you must write out the long form.


What is the distinction? It is SOLELY their opinion.

Why does it then matter? Because they have a world view that far leftist opinions MUST dominate or you slander and smear people until they do.

Just to correct these narratives and put it on the record.

Both of the summations above are lies.

The discussions did not focus on transgender people being 'real' or not or 'fake trans people'. That is just usual dishonesty.

What that type of dishonesty always speaks to is that both uke and Trolly believe an honest summary would not serve them. It would not paint the harsh light on the discussions they desire. As such what they do is make up, what they think would be bad enough, and then attribute it to others, who they then condemn.