i agree, we need to acknowledge all trans identities. it's the right thing to do. there're dozens if not hundreds of ways that someone could have their gender reassigned without them having being born that way, and we need to respect them enough to have a label for each.

i propose that the child in the op be celebrated as a maternacastrato.

I decided to stop using it several posts ago when I was shown it was incorrect grammar. That you want to associate it to a slur is your problem, not mine.

Nobody thinks you meant it as a slur, you didn’t know it was a slur at the time you said it. This conversation doesn’t have anything to do with grammar. At least one transgender person has been referenced in this thread saying it is a slur.

Your ego is not more important than an entire community’s right to respect. Your prioritizing of your ego is what people are ridiculing at this point, and with good reason.

If you agree to not use that term anymore then this derail can be over.

How an 8-year old finally capitulates.

Why do you want to call a child names? I propose you **** off.

It was not a slur, nor used as a slur. You are committing an association fallacy. That's your problem, not mine. (words have different usages and context, you can't cherry pick which context and usage is applied, at your discretion, and expect people to respect what you have to say about this)

It's you people so anxious to call someone a bigot, or claim they are doing something offensive, you did not realize I acknowledged the grammatical issues several post ago, but actually it was your ego wanted me to relent to you about it being offensive.

You didn’t mean to slur someone, however your intent doesn’t make it an inoffensive term.

If you need to tell yourself that it’s more important to be grammatically correct than inoffensive and respectful, you do you buddy. People are allowed to ridicule your priorities and posit that maybe you’re just a bad person.

It’s not my ego, it’s my principles that prevent me from letting this go. Maybe that’s why you don’t understand.

Preposterous, your own tweet demonstrated it was commonly used innocuously. That's game over, as far I'm concerned. it's about principal to me, as well.

The tweet was pointing out that it’s a common mistake but the term is offensive.

You don’t need to embarrassed of making that mistake. You do need to be embarrassed of continuing to make it.

For someone so concerned with grammar, you might want to work on your comprehension.

Anyone with any maturity who is not deliberately trying to be offensive acknowledged and moved on 50 posts ago.

When people say, "i don't like that word", instead of associating a context and usage that is not present...those are the ones I listen to on this type of issue.

Like someone could of been called a green bean, by their abusive father, and hates it.....if they told me not to use green bean because the word is offensive, I'm going to call bullshit. In almost all situations where a person take offense to a word, they say "I don't like it". If they told me they just did not like it, I would respect that, not that the word is offensive.

This is the principled part, you do not get to dictate what is a slur, or not a slur for society, especially when the various terms have quickly regressed, in light of some new term, or "enlightenment", especially when the context and usage is innocuous.

Activist talk like you talk....not people bothered by a word. People bothered, or offended by a word, say "I".

Qualifying insults, offensive epithets, and slurs: a relevance-theoretic approach
Itshot, this paper is for you.

Principal and principle are different, btw. For grammar to be your raison d’etre, you certainly are quite lacking.

I'm much better at context and usage, than grammar and spelling. I made a grammar mistake, and people conflated that with bigotry, and grammar is my raison d'etre?

What in the actual **** makes you think crossnerd is dictating that it's a slur? Are you daft?

This assertion seems iffy given this very conversation’s context...

Sometimes patience is wasted on people.

I would never refer to him/her/hir as maternacastrato unless he/she/ze chose to be identified as such. I'm not some kind of a monster.

I just think it's important that we teach children of these differences to give them the option and encourage them to be their true selves.

What? All you've done is repeat yourself, barely engaging with my responses....


You claim it's an offensive term, and have demonstrated it's used commonly, in an innocuous way. You, and the activist, wants to coopt the innocuous context for the offensive one. That's important to you. As if you, and by extension, we are too dumb to distinguish between the two. You explicitly indicated you did not think I used it as a pejorative....but I should stop using it anyways, because it's an offensive word, and I you think should relent based on the merits of that argument, or I'm a dick? It's flawed reasoning.

If you are offended by green bean, tell me YOU are offended by that word, not appeal to an association fallacy of green bean being a slur.

Before you were active here, itshot showed is how he was an elite reading comprehender, as demonstrated by a multiple choice online test. It is settled fact.

The fact that she's willing to spend several hours hammering down the point despite not being personally affected is a testament to how principled she is. What if a year from now you were in a conversation with a transgender person and you used the word transgendered, and they took mild offense to it? This isn't a joke homey. These are peoples lives. And if preventing such a disastrous outcome requires haranguing people in the name of educating them - that's the price we have to pay.

I’ve demonstrated that it’s used without malintent. That was demonstrated to you via a correction of its misusage, similar to yours, as well as a conveyance that it is an offensive term.

Yes, I admit I have been repetitive. I suppose I’ll keep repeating it in various ways until I hit on one that you can comprehend.

Typically I’d have let frustration get the better of me by this point, but he seems so.... helpless?

I lived with them for three years. They did not take an issue with me, and I learned a lot. Not a single person has taken issue with any of my post about transgender issues, and I've made several, including two here. The only thing people have taken issue with is, my use of -ed. This appeal to lack of empathy is bullshit, or you'd be able to be critical the substance of the other post and the post the word was used in, and the folks I lived with would of eventually shown some resentment (btw, they used transgendered, all the time in conversations), and certainly others here would take objection to the substance of the post, yet none did.

I'm well aware of the issues facing that community, if you are worrying about -ed at the end of word that you've admitted you know it was not used as pejorative, and you can't take issue with any of my other post on the topic, I'm sorry, that a stupid thing to worry about, knowing what I know about transgender. All this dialogue and we are talking about -ed....this is all about trying to paint me.