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10-26-2019 , 12:08 PM

#76

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

I know transgendered folks know it's more than just getting a vagina.

Here's one way I know that you haven't actually spoken with many trans people.

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10-26-2019 , 12:16 PM

#77

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Here's one way I know that you haven't actually spoken with many trans people.

As always, you are attempting to discredit my post by attacking the logic, and you are wrong.

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10-26-2019 , 12:23 PM

#78

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

Here's one way I know that you haven't actually spoken with many trans people.

Yeah, someone using transgender as a noun or verb is a very obvious sign that they either are not at all familiar with the issues or are being deliberately offensive.

Transgender is an adjective, using it in any other way is always wrong and is always offensive.

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10-26-2019 , 12:25 PM

#79

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Originally Posted by Willd

Please highlight the noun in my post. (folks)

I'm convinced you're all idiots. You just inadvertently owed MrWookie, and yourself.

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10-26-2019 , 12:27 PM

#80

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

Please highlight the noun in my post. (folks)

I'm convinced you're all idiots.

Here's a guy who is trying to pretend that the word "or" isn't there.

Last edited by MrWookie; 10-26-2019 at 12:32 PM. Reason: Obviously he's an elite, super perceptive reader of words.

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10-26-2019 , 12:30 PM

#81

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Please highlight the noun in my post. (folks)

I'm convinced you're all idiots. You just inadvertently owed Mrwookie, and yourself.

Is the concept of a verb foreign to you? Or did you just stop reading at noun and claim victory?

To be ultra clear, "transgendered" is using transgender as a verb and is offensive.

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10-26-2019 , 12:33 PM

#82

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Then you both should stop thinking it's a verb cuz it's pretty f****** offensive. It's not even close to being used as a verb, or a noun. And once again, you get dragged into one of the narcissist faulty logic assumptions and try to defend it with ignorance.

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10-26-2019 , 12:34 PM

#83

MrWookie

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Then you both should stop thinking it's a verb cuz it's pretty f****** offensive.

What in the actual ****?

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It's not even close the being used as a verb, or a noun.

Which other "adjectives" other than "transgendered" have a past tense?

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10-26-2019 , 12:38 PM

#84

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What in the actual ****?

Which other "adjectives" other than "transgendered" have a past tense?

Google transgendered.

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10-26-2019 , 12:41 PM

#85

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

Google transgendered.

Doing so immediately suggests that you use transgender instead of transgendered, and it offers up this link

https://www.vox.com/2015/2/18/805569...nsgendered-tnr

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10-26-2019 , 12:42 PM

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Then answer this question honestly, the use of the term was used as an adjective, verb or noun, colloquial, or otherwise.

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10-26-2019 , 12:43 PM

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Then you both should stop thinking it's a verb cuz it's pretty f****** offensive. It's not even close to being used as a verb, or a noun. And once again you get dragged in one of the narcissist faulty logic assumptions and try to defend it with ignorance.

To quote from dictionary.com:

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And people object to the adjectival variant transgendered because the –ed suffix could imply that something happened to make the person transgender.

You can look at literally any mainstream discussion or authority on language and 100% of them will note that "transgendered" is considered wrong and/or offensive.

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10-26-2019 , 12:44 PM

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Cuz now you're shifting the goalposts to me using it in past tense as opposed to using it as a noun, or verb. Get your story straight of what you're outraged about, then come back to me.

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10-26-2019 , 12:45 PM

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Cuz now you're shifting the goalposts of me using it in past tense as opposed to using it as a noun, or verb.

The original point was that you were using the wrong term. You created the googling distraction.

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10-26-2019 , 12:47 PM

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The original point was that you were using the wrong term. You created the googling distraction.

I don't have to agree with what people find offensive. If someone is upset at proper use of the word, because it has an -ed at the end, I don't care, and no one I've talked to it has cared, until now. To be fair, I don't hang out with activists.

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10-26-2019 , 12:52 PM

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I don't have to agree with what people find offensive. If someone is upset at proper use of the word, because it has an -ed at the end, I don't care, and no one has cared.

Again, literally 100% of reference material will tell you that transgendered (as a verb or variant adjective) is considered incorrect and/or offensive - it hasn't been acceptable since the mid '00s. You're literally defending using a slur rather than simply accepting that you didn't realise your choice of words was problematic and changing to use transgender in the future.

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This goes back to Wookie's initial point - namely that if you were actually well informed about issues surrounding this subject you would have come across the fact that using "transgendered" is over a decade out of date and now considered offensive.

Last edited by Willd; 10-26-2019 at 12:54 PM. Reason: Added second quote rather than double post

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10-26-2019 , 12:55 PM

#92

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I don't subscribe to the progressive activist world view. I don't have to comply with that view, and the folks I've dealt with, and lived with find that type of virtue signalling to be counter-productive. The only people who care about it are the activist.

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10-26-2019 , 01:02 PM

#93

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I don't subscribe to the progressive activst world view. I don't have to comply with that view, and the folks I've dealt with, and lived with find that type of virtue signalling to be counter-productive. The only people who care about it are the activists.

No, the people who care about it are first and foremost people are who transgender. You aren't making some big stand against progressivism here, you're simply choosing to use offensive language instead of taking the zero effort step of using transgender instead of transgendered in the future.

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10-26-2019 , 01:08 PM

#94

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Originally Posted by Willd

If they care about -ed, at the end of a word (and that being the only practical distinction in its usage, as in this case), I'm not taking them serious, and you should not either.

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10-26-2019 , 01:09 PM

#95

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What in the actual ****?

Which other "adjectives" other than "transgendered" have a past tense?

itshot

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10-26-2019 , 01:09 PM

#96

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Is English your second language?

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10-26-2019 , 01:14 PM

#97

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

If they care about -ed, at the end of a word (and that being the only practical distinction in its usage, as in this case), I'm not taking them serious, and you should not either.

Personally when friends tell me that something is offensive to them I choose to acknowledge that and make an effort to avoid the offensive language in the future. I'm not in the habit of dismissing their views just because it seems like a trivial thing to me.

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10-26-2019 , 01:17 PM

#98

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

itshot

Don't sweat it, he's not an admired person. Yes, admirial, but only people who care are grammar nits

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10-26-2019 , 01:19 PM

#99

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Originally Posted by Willd

I lived and socialized with with an entire social network/community, this is the first time anyone has brought this up, and low and behold, it's the ultra ideological progressives. If one of you were actually trans, I'd think about it

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10-26-2019 , 01:26 PM

#100

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Originally Posted by itshotinvegas

When I said a friend told me that wasn't a hypothetical. I have a number of trans friends and have heard directly from them that the use of transgendered is problematic.

And if you would actually consider thinking about it if a trans person said it then I could point you at dozens of articles online written by trans people explaining why it is a problem.

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