David- yeah as for me personally I already lost a long time ago. One thing about me is, everyone who knows me has benefited from knowing me. Not one of my friends or relatives is less successful than I. I absorb a lot of pain for everyone I know.

First, you're backpedaling from your initial argument. Second, it doesn't matter if not every member of the community sees it the same because we are discussing the inherent nature of the word. Third, you're admitting to owning a controversial hat that you won't wear to a presumably Native American casino, which is like saying you use racial slurs but not in front of other races. Good luck with your part-time social activism.

This story was/is actually really interesting. Too bad itshotinvegas had to ruin it.

I thought it was interesting too. I noticed you referred to her as Luna and insta-realized I’d been making a mistake.

Even allies with the best intentions can make mistakes. It’s definitely a matter of how you choose to behave going forward.

So regarding LUNA-

For a Texas judge and jury to side with her mother in this case is very telling, imo.

I think a good conversational point to ask is this:

According to the father , the boy always dresses up and acts like a boy when he is in the fathers custody and always dresses up and acts like a girl in his mother’s custody.

There isn’t a lot of evidence available but there is enough pictorial evidence to at least suggest this is true.

Why is this?

My first guess would be that Luna is aware of her father’s disapproval and behaves accordingly when around him.

Luna is a *twin* with a cisgender brother. Both children were deemed by experts to show no signs of aggression or abuse. This testimony was compelling enough to render an 11-1 verdict in favor of the mother. In ****ing TEXAS.

The father annulled his marriage to the mother when, on Luna’s third birthday, she expressed her desire to present as female.

Wrt your question, here is a quote from the father that is more than telling imo- “All of his authority figures — his mother, his teacher, the librarian at school, the police officer at school, the principal at school — tell him he’s a girl. I’m the only authority figure in his life that tells him the truth; that he’s actually a boy.”

Again, there hasn’t been any actual debate about medically transitioning Luna. The mother is asking for Luna’s *social* transition to be respected and affirmed.

That is a very good point. You ARE quite smart, don’t let anyone make you feel insecure.

Again, not sure why you or anyone think you can make me feel less smart or less secure. I’m good, thank you

I think the main issue here is the relationship between the parents.

Whatever happens or not happens to the kid in terms of gender probably has way less affect on the kids life than the constant disputes and quarrels of its parents that will surely happen as long as they are in disagreement.

Ah...no.

Hardly a backpedal. I said if you can understand one you can understand the other [which I'm not saying is intuitive, it isn't--but the analogy of using whitened for white people should take a person all the way there], but I'm also figuring this out on the fly. And I'm not a part time social activist in any way. I just don't want to offend people inadvertently.

Look up "gendered". I mean, that term should be offensive, as well.


Interestingly, you can't find anything on the etymology of the word that shall not be used. Can't find it in the dictionary, like other slurs. From multiple sources, the issue with the word is, it's not accurate, and grammatically incorrect. The rejection of the word has been made on those grounds. It also seems the word is born out of incorrect grammar, rather than any sort of nefarious, or slanderous usage.


This is the first slur I've never actully seen used as a slur. Pretty much all mentions of the term, when used conversationally, has been in a non-perjorative sense, and only then someone comes in and says it is a slur, and should not use it.

At what point do you stop letting people offend your intelligence, before you call bullshit?

"Gendered sexuality" is using gender as a verb and applying it to the concept of sexuality. It's got issues as a term but it isn't offensive because concepts can't get offended, only people.

Here in this thread the argument that I'm making isn't even original. Wiild and CN both made it before me to argue why participial adjectives for innate traits are offensive. I'm just trying to spell it out more fully. So it is being made.
It's the grammatical incorrectness that makes it offensive. People's innate traits aren't acted on by transitive verbs.

You people get so emotional over this ****.

I can get behind is being an inaccurate term, but there is zero historical context for it being used as a slur.


Innate...

Gendered. Is the argument, sexuality is not innate?

Looking for etymology and historical context is not being "emotional". Further, what's the problem with being emotional? It's offensive to trivialize people's emotions, as it's completely normal human behavior, will you please stop?

Sexuality is a concept. Concepts can't be offended.
"Gendered sexuality" is another more specific concept about the relationship between the concept of gender and the concept of sexuality.
And it probably isn't used as a slur. The slur is what I need to remove to get to my car's timing chain.

Gender sexuality.

Bryce,

Here's juan talking about chemical castration in post #9 of this thread: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...41&postcount=9

Also, there are a lot of posts that have been deleted.

I'm very sorry that your 75th favorite slur is no longer acceptable in polite society, can you just suck it up and deal with it?

The good news is that there are all kinds of euphemisms and dogwhisltes you can use to put down marginalized people.

its truly insane. like, if someone requests that they be called by their middle name, do ppl like itshot throw an absolute fit and make it a point to use a different name? I really dont get how itshot gets so offended that someone would prefer a different terminology.

I'm more concerned with you making offensive remarks about emotions. You have nothing to be sorry about when it comes to what others do, or don't do. When you apologize correctly, you take ownership of your own behavior, not others. This is about your actions, and attitude towards emotions.

No one who likes you will speak out against you on this, despite it being an issue that's generated significant attention among progressives. (Looking down on emotions)

I mean, I am asking you to practice what you preach.

What's insane is, the wide spread emotional response to a grammar error, and the pivioting to how odd it is to purportedly get emotional over words. You all live in a special world, I honestly don't know how you live with the cognitive dissonance.